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No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

The one who refuses to negotiate is generally the spoiled child.

It is to be expected of an affirmative action entitlement addicted poster child like Obama
 
It is to be expected of an affirmative action entitlement addicted poster child like Obama

Hey kids, that rightwing meme. We haven't seen it for a while. I mean how else could a black man become president if not by affirmative action.

God, conservatives are intellecutally bankrupt.
 
Good for him and I hope he sticks to it. The republicans are just going to have to shoot themselves or raise taxes. Obama has learned.

Hear, hear. Finally Obama realizes that conservatives are thugs and nihilists. All they care about is enriching the rich. That's it. They are morally and intellectually bankrupt. The only way to beat them is to beat them, and to summon up the American people to finally overthrow these caterpillars on the republic.
 
Hey kids, that rightwing meme. We haven't seen it for a while. I mean how else could a black man become president if not by affirmative action.

God, conservatives are intellecutally bankrupt.

the meme fixation is getting silly

and obama is an affirmative action poster child.
 
Hear, hear. Finally Obama realizes that conservatives are thugs and nihilists. All they care about is enriching the rich. That's it. They are morally and intellectually bankrupt. The only way to beat them is to beat them, and to summon up the American people to finally overthrow these caterpillars on the republic.


another silly intellectually bankrupt stereotyping of conservatives. I sometimes think your posts are designed to make intelligent liberals look bad by association
 
the meme fixation is getting silly

and obama is an affirmative action poster child.

Yep, if I were posting odious racist memes like yours, I'd be upset too about being exposed. Get used to it.
 
Then there won't be a deal.

The fun thing is if there isn't, the miltiary will finally by drastically cut and the rich will have to pay 35% on the dividend income (like they should). Frankly that ain't so bad from a progressive's perspective.

Of course, the rich puppetmasters of the GOP can't tolerate that. So they're freaking out. It's hilarious.
 
The one who refuses to negotiate is generally the spoiled child.
Actually, Obama is smart not to negotiate. On January 1, he gets exactly what he wants--taxes to rise on the rich. Negotiation, for him, would only serve to negotiate away his own agenda. That is why he wont do it. Republicans have little reason to negotiate either. For them, compromise with the president is a just a negotiation on the size of a potential tax increase, not whether or not one will happen at all. That decision was made by the voters on Nov. 6. When both sides gain by a failure to reach an agreement, it is a safe bet one wont be reached.
 
Or the person who has had enough of the spoiled child. try to follow the bouncing ball, it is not that hard.

I will leave the follow the bouncing ball thing to you libs, you are very good at that. Everyone sing together now, read the words and recite them in unison.
 
Yep, if I were posting odious racist memes like yours, I'd be upset too about being exposed. Get used to it.

Upset? hardly, I laugh at the hysterical nonsense you post. and when a far lefty or "progressive" calls someone or something "racist" it generally means the far lefty or progressive is unable to intelligently respond
 
The corollary, of course, is that Republican leaders say there won't be a deal if there are cuts to military spending, or if taxes are raised on the wealthy. All of these hardline positions need to go. We need to gain more tax revenue from whatever sources have more to spare, and we need to stop spending money in places we don't need to be. And we need to streamline our current systems to avoid waste and abuse. We need to do ALL of these things, not some of them.
 
Obama should say, if you can raise the amount I want by closing loopholes I will sign it, instead he slammed the door in their faces.

Yet again without SPECIFICS on HOW, the GOPs rhetoric of what they "might" do or how much revenue it will bing in is meaningless.

When the GOP comes up with specifics then I think Obama should listen. And that goes for Obama also coming to terms that spending cuts with the Dems sacred cows need to happen.
 
The corollary, of course, is that Republican leaders say there won't be a deal if there are cuts to military spending, or if taxes are raised on the wealthy. All of these hardline positions need to go. We need to gain more tax revenue from whatever sources have more to spare, and we need to stop spending money in places we don't need to be. And we need to streamline our current systems to avoid waste and abuse. We need to do ALL of these things, not some of them.

if dems really believed the bs they spewed they would demand that everyone pay more taxes
 
Not enough revenue will be raised by this method.

raising revenues is not the intent of Obama's plan. Its slaking the butt hurt envy of those who blame the rich for their own lack of success. His plan is based on vote counting and pandering. He is afraid to raise taxes on the middle class even though that is where the taxes should be raised in order to deter the love of big spenders.
 
So a better plan would be to raise taxes on the poor and middle class?

Great - let's try to get blood from a stone too.

When you cut programs, which we need to do as well, you mostly effect the middle and lower class. Why should the upper class, yet again, get a pass?

Cut programs and spending, but also raise taxes. And raising taxes includes the upper class, who are paying historically lower rates than they did for most of the 20th century.

I don't know why people want to make the rich out to be victims when they've had unprecedented prosperity during a time when the masses have struggled more than any time since the WW2.

So remember, when you talk of cutting spending you effect mostly everybody BUT the rich.
So why double down on those people when you talk of raising taxes?

Why is there some strange need to protect the most prosperous at the expense of the everybody else?

Small businesses will be drastically affected. We need small businesses to not have their taxes increased so that unemployment will go down.
 
Not enough revenue will be raised by this method.

More than with tax cuts. But we do need to raise taxes and cut spending. Perhaps once the posturing stops, they'll get to work.
 
Hey kids, that rightwing meme. We haven't seen it for a while. I mean how else could a black man become president if not by affirmative action.

Obama did have to meet a lower standard than McCain did in order to qualify for the office.
That is the definition of affirmative action.
 
Obama did have to meet a lower standard than McCain did in order to qualify for the office.
That is the definition of affirmative action.

Bull ****!!!!
 
Absolute truth.

No, clear, plain, absolute bull ****!!!!

Heard a lot of mindless pity party whining since the election, but that has to be called what it is:BULL ****!!!!
 
No, clear, plain, absolute bull ****!!!!

Heard a lot of mindless pity party whining since the election, but that has to be called what it is:BULL ****!!!!

YOU can call it anything you want. But, that fact is that it's the truth.
 
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