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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah it might make that guy stop voting for big spending politicians

    its the middle and lower classes who vote in big spenders. its time the sucklers of the public tits start realizing they have to pay for the milk

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says





    Yeah....We have Seen it all before!

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Republicans and Democrats have sharply different reactions to the government's taking such an active role in equalizing economic outcomes. Seven in 10 Democrats believe the government should levy taxes on the rich to redistribute wealth, while an equal proportion of Republicans believe it should not. The slight majority of independents oppose this policy.

    Bottom Line

    While a solid majority of Americans, 57%, believe money and wealth in the U.S. should be more evenly distributed among the people, fewer than half favor using the federal tax code to do so. The fault line in these views is distinctly partisan, with most Democrats championing redistribution and most Republicans opposing it......snip~

    Americans Divided on Taxing the Rich to Redistribute Wealth


    U were Allegedly saying something about some sort of Strong majority.....huh? What do you think happens when ya takes the Majority of Independents and put them in with a Ranking that is nearly tied in statistics? So much on the fallacy of the hyped up so called majority!

    Seems the majority of Americans don't favor using the Federal tax Code to do so......seems that's where some of the confusion comes in. Or that Progressives refuse to acknowledge that fact while saying 60% percent say go ahead and tax the Rich. Do you think that such is due to their ability to not ready all the words when reports comes out. Or do they just deliberately forget?
    No the bottom line is 30 years ago Republicans started the Redistribute Wealth, How else can you explain stagnant wages for the middle class over that time period while the top has reaped a windfall off the back of middle class Americans. You want to talk about class warfare that an debate that Republicans will lose on.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...lthy-84675.htm

    61% are in favor of raising the tax on the rich that is a strong majority. The sad part is Republicans still have their head in the sand and most still think trickle down economics works.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Democratic Party thinks they're the winners, so using their tactics should make them proud.
    No the Democratic Party did win and win big. I am sure you watched Fox News and how they said for weeks that it was in the bag for Romney. Then wegot to laugh at Rove and his deer in the headlight moment. Republicans keep attacking middle America they will lose big 2014. Especcially if they tie the wagon to the looney teabaggers

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    No the Democratic Party did win and win big. I am sure you watched Fox News and how they said for weeks that it was in the bag for Romney. Then wegot to laugh at Rove and his deer in the headlight moment. Republicans keep attacking middle America they will lose big 2014. Especcially if they tie the wagon to the looney teabaggers
    Winning by less than 2% isnt winning big. Thanks for playing rationalization politics.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post




    Yeah....We have Seen it all before!
    the Obunny position is patently dishonest

    as others have noted, Obunny's state of the union early this year claimed that everyone but the rich sacrifices when government spending is cut-but the rich will have to pay more taxes. Meaning the rich don't benefit from government services so why should they pay even more for stuff they don't benefit from

    the fact is its pure pandering to class envy. and the obama slurpers who whine that this point is repetitive fail to acknowledge that the tax the rich nonsense is the same old crap over and over and over

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    No the Democratic Party did win and win big. I am sure you watched Fox News and how they said for weeks that it was in the bag for Romney. Then wegot to laugh at Rove and his deer in the headlight moment. Republicans keep attacking middle America they will lose big 2014. Especcially if they tie the wagon to the looney teabaggers
    psychobabble-the GOP retained congress

    and its hardly attacking middle america to oppose class warfare against the most productive tax payers

    I wonder what the voting would be if it was based on federal taxes paid. the majority of those who use more than they pay voted for Obama. The majority of those who pay more than they get in government benefits-Romney

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    No the bottom line is 30 years ago Republicans started the Redistribute Wealth, How else can you explain stagnant wages for the middle class over that time period while the top has reaped a windfall off the back of middle class Americans. You want to talk about class warfare that an debate that Republicans will lose on.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2012/1...lthy-84675.htm

    61% are in favor of raising the tax on the rich that is a strong majority. The sad part is Republicans still have their head in the sand and most still think trickle down economics works.
    In the last 30 years the government has been taking 14% greater amount implemented as taxes visible on your paycheck. That may explain some of it. Id have to dig to find the info on which ones were raised by which amount and which were added but I can assure you that are you being taxed on your paycheck at a greater amount than people were in the past.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TaraAnne View Post
    You do understand the debt ceiling is used to pay for the bills we already have like the 12 trillion Republicans have racked up over they years. The whole mess is nothing more than a joke! SS has not add any debt to the deficit. So that is off the table! I am a firm believer that rates should go up for everyone. Then no pay or benefits for congress or the president. Now that is mostly symbolic but let get real if you want to get spending under control lets get with it.
    I got it, only Republican's racked up debt. Great point and partisan.

    The mess is not a joke...we are in deep. If it were a joke, Spain and Greece would be having a party right now.

    Ok, Social Security is off the table. Not sure what that has to do with my point of not having a unlimited debt ceiling.

    Sure, cut the president and congresses pay and benefits. I don't care.

    Getting spending under control is a must, but let me put it this way. The debt ceiling is a check and balance. Taking that away from Congress could be disasterous. Removing the check and balance is a safety, keep it in place. I am sure that for my lifetime, our national debt will not go down. So tying it to a percentage of the GDP gives a real deficit to income ratio that I think I could be ok with. It would also take these constant debates about the debt ceiling off the table.
    We went from sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me to safe spaces.

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    Re: No Fiscal Deal Without Higher Tax Rates On Rich, Obama Says

    Obama and his cronies are hoping to see the next year begin with higher taxes for those of us who actually work and pay taxes while at the same time seeing the defense budget slashed. It is the progressive way. In order to redistribute wealth, they have to get more and more access to the wealth. That's what ObamaCare is about, it's what "fair share" economics is about and it is what his "proposal" for avoiding the "fiscal cliff" is all about. He has made a proposal that the Republicans cannot accept and it's primary intention is to keep any deal from being reached in order to ensure that taxes are increased. His backup plan is that if the Republicans are stupid enough to cave he then has more control on the spending or more important the threat of not increasing the federal debt limit is removed and he has the GOP over a barrell.
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