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    Morsi Leaves Palace!!!

    Egypt's Mursi leaves palace as police battle protesters

    (Reuters) - Egyptian police battled thousands of protesters outside President Mohamed Mursi's palace in Cairo on Tuesday, prompting the Islamist leader to leave the building, presidency sources said.

    Officers fired teargas at up to 10,000 demonstrators angered by Mursi's drive to hold a referendum on a new constitution on December 15. Some broke through police lines around his palace and protested next to the perimeter wall.

    The crowds had gathered nearby in what organizers had dubbed "last warning" protests against Mursi, who infuriated opponents with a November 22 decree that expanded his powers. "The people want the downfall of the regime," the demonstrators chanted.

    "The president left the palace," a presidential source, who declined to be named, told Reuters. A security source at the presidency also said the president had departed.

    Mursi ignited a storm of unrest in his bid to prevent a judiciary still packed with appointees of ousted predecessor Hosni Mubarak from derailing a troubled political transition.

    Facing the gravest crisis of his six-month-old tenure, the Islamist president has shown no sign of buckling under pressure.

    Riot police at the palace faced off against activists chanting "leave, leave" and holding Egyptian flags with "no to the constitution" written on them. Protesters had assembled near mosques in northern Cairo before marching towards the palace.

    "Our marches are against tyranny and the void constitutional decree and we won't retract our position until our demands are met," said Hussein Abdel Ghany, a spokesman for an opposition coalition of liberal, leftist and other disparate factions.

    Protesters later surrounded the palace, with some climbing on gates at the rear to look down into the gardens.

    At one point, people clambered onto a police armored vehicle and waved flags, while riot police huddled nearby.

    The Health Ministry said 18 people had been injured in clashes next to the palace, according to the state news agency.

    Read more:Egypt's Mursi leaves palace as police battle protesters | Reuters


    Thanks Obama for taking out our ally and supporting the Arab Spring and now we have a dictator worse than the other dictator. At least Mubarak kept the peace with Israel.

    Hard to believe the Egyptian people voted this guy in. They live in the ME and didn't realize what the MB stood for??? Are you kidding me??? Guess it's like the American people voting Obama back in...they have no idea what they are in for.

    Wonder when we'll hear from Obama about this power grab?? Never??? That's about it. I think he's too busy playing golf and getting ready for his Hawaii vacation.
    If it sounds like Marx and acts like Stalin...it must be Obama

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    Re: Morsi Leaves Palace!!!

    Obama made the same mistake Bush did in Iraq IMHO. You cannot rid yourself of all the people who are in charge of government services and expect people to be happy when they are free to sit in the dark, hungry. He (as in his administration) really should have shown some more hands on leadership to assist in a transition from Mubarak. Patriarchal societies do not evolve overnight.

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    During the Iraq war, all we heard was "why go after Hussein?" and "we had him where we wanted, so why push it?"

    I can't help but think the same thing about Mubarek and Egypt. Did Obama really think the Muslim Brotherhood were any other way than how they've been? If so, he's more gullible than I thought.

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    This is all going purdy much as I predicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Thanks Obama for taking out our ally and supporting the Arab Spring and now we have a dictator worse than the other dictator. At least Mubarak kept the peace with Israel.
    Obama didn't oust Mubarak. The Egyptian people and generals did. Besides, Morsi, authoritarian dick that he is, helped negotiate the ceasefire between Gaza and Israel. Things between Israel and Egypt are not going back to what they were under Mubarak, but the current government hasn't really threatened Israel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Hard to believe the Egyptian people voted this guy in. They live in the ME and didn't realize what the MB stood for??? Are you kidding me??? Guess it's like the American people voting Obama back in...they have no idea what they are in for.
    The MB stand for a lot of things besides Islamism. Most Egyptians care about jobs and ending corruption. The MB built its platform on both. Under Mubarak the MB was probably the best organized political movement outside of the government. They built hospitals and schools, led unions, and provided many services to the poor that the government did not. Since the revolution, the MB has tried to show itself as the most moderate Islamist party, promising relative equality for women and religious minorities, and focusing on creating a more pluralistic state than the military did. It also didn't hurt that the liberal parties were badly divided and squabbling.

    Obviously, they were no liberals, and their rise troubled me, and should have troubled anyone interested in personal liberty. But my hope was that they wouldn't overplay their hand. Even now, Morsi's power grab seems to be borne out of frustration with much of the old elite remaining in power, not some desire to emulate the Taliban. Yeah, Islamists suck, and Morsi's a dick, but Egyptian politics are pretty complex.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Wonder when we'll hear from Obama about this power grab?? Never??? That's about it. I think he's too busy playing golf and getting ready for his Hawaii vacation.
    Obama is largely irrelevant to this whole thing. Obama supported Mubarak until it became apparent that he was getting kicked out sooner rather than later. The administration had nothing to do with the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood. Not everything in the world is our doing.
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    Re: Morsi Leaves Palace!!!

    Obama was very vocal in his support of protesters trying to oust Mubarak, why so quiet now I wonder?

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    Re: Morsi Leaves Palace!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post

    Thanks Obama for taking out our ally and supporting the Arab Spring and now we have a dictator worse than the other dictator. At least Mubarak kept the peace with Israel.
    I would take Morsi any day before Mubarak. At least Morsi was elected in an election... Sure Morsi isnt perfect but a hell of a lot better than Mubarak. And plus new democracies arent the celanist of practices.
    Also Egypt is still at peace with Israel.

    Hard to believe the Egyptian people voted this guy in. They live in the ME and didn't realize what the MB stood for??? Are you kidding me???
    You do realize that there is large part of the Egyptian population that does agree with Morsi and still stand by him right?
    LIVE UPDATES: Violent clashes explode between pro, anti-Morsi forces - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online
    Pro-Morsi protests in Egypt | Al Bawaba

    Guess it's like the American people voting Obama back in...they have no idea what they are in for.
    Good one


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    Re: Morsi Leaves Palace!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I would take Morsi any day before Mubarak. At least Morsi was elected in an election... Sure Morsi isnt perfect but a hell of a lot better than Mubarak. And plus new democracies arent the celanist of practices.
    Also Egypt is still at peace with Israel.


    You do realize that there is large part of the Egyptian population that does agree with Morsi and still stand by him right?
    LIVE UPDATES: Violent clashes explode between pro, anti-Morsi forces - Politics - Egypt - Ahram Online
    Pro-Morsi protests in Egypt | Al Bawaba


    Good one

    Hey, I could actually care less about freaking Egypt. I only care about the well being of Israel. If they leave them alone they can have Sharia Law up the ****ing ying yang as far as I care. They can beat, whip, mutilate, stone, behead each other all they want.
    If it sounds like Marx and acts like Stalin...it must be Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama was very vocal in his support of protesters trying to oust Mubarak, why so quiet now I wonder?
    Morsi is anti-American, so that makes him a good guy in Obama's book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is all going purdy much as I predicted.
    i look forward to seeing the posts where you predicted this
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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