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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Uh, yeah, they are...lol! You've never run a business before. Have you?



    We weren't in a recession. Nor was Obamacare taking effect with those tax hikes.

    Not to mention, there is no $250,000 hard-deck on corporate taxes.
    What is obvious is you never have run a small business. Manufacturing is 50 to 1500 employees, wholesaling 100 to 500, services up to 21 MILLION in gross receipts...

    What most 'conservatives' call small business is actually micro, mom and pop, and hobby businesses.

    Speaking of corporations, some micro businesses take advantage of the far more favorable tax structure a corporation enjoys and call themselves a corporation. The ones I know are single person businesses, consultants and the like. They pay themselves as an employee, the corp picks up many costs for the 'employee'.

    Many family farms are incorporated. It is quite common these days, I know one that had on it's board a 6 and 9 year old child!

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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    What is obvious is you never have run a small business. Manufacturing is 50 to 1500 employees, wholesaling 100 to 500, services up to 21 MILLION in gross receipts...

    What most 'conservatives' call small business is actually micro, mom and pop, and hobby businesses.

    Speaking of corporations, some micro businesses take advantage of the far more favorable tax structure a corporation enjoys and call themselves a corporation. The ones I know are single person businesses, consultants and the like. They pay themselves as an employee, the corp picks up many costs for the 'employee'.

    Many family farms are incorporated. It is quite common these days, I know one that had on it's board a 6 and 9 year old child!
    You use the SBA.gov definition of small business correct?

    I really don't buy there definition. I believe those mom and pops that you are leaving out provide:

    Employ 70 million US citizens
    Represent 99% of US firms
    Generate 90+% of all new jobs
    Pay 45% of total US payroll
    Produce 13 times more patents than large firms
    Produce 30% of all exports

    And up until Nov 11 from Jan 10, those small businesses accounted for 98% of the jobs created. But that is under the American definition of small business being under 500 employees (should be modified).

    If we accept the european standard for small business, 50 or less people, small business creates about 35% of the jobs in the US.

    Just my $0.02.

    BTW...OMG, a 6 and a 9 year old? Teaching them the ropes early? Just there way I guess.
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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    I am having trouble finding your source, please post it...

    Funny how many HATE when European ideas and practices are mentioned but that doesn't seem to limit using Socialist Europe as an example when it suits.

    Yeah many family corporations list minor children as board members. Doesn't mean they understand a damn thing, though I wouldn't hold that against them, I think many adult board members are as clueless as the 'X-spurts' advise them how to vote!

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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    The point here is that Republicans should be embracing the message put forth by conservatives, not running away from it. And Im not talking about abortion or religion. No one really cares about that. Focus on dollars and cents. People know that debt is bad, high taxes are bad, and govt running your life is bad. This is what got Reagan and Bush elected, this is what led to a Republican takeover and balanced budget in the 90s, this is what led to a tea party surge in 2010, this is what allowed the Republican to keep the House in 2012 and control tax policy.

    GOP leaders are the problem, not the solution.

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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I am having trouble finding your source, please post it...

    Funny how many HATE when European ideas and practices are mentioned but that doesn't seem to limit using Socialist Europe as an example when it suits.

    Yeah many family corporations list minor children as board members. Doesn't mean they understand a damn thing, though I wouldn't hold that against them, I think many adult board members are as clueless as the 'X-spurts' advise them how to vote!
    Some links...

    Small Business Produces 99% of Jobs | Jobenomics
    How Many Jobs Do Small Businesses Create? Depends What 'Small' Means - BusinessWeek
    What is SBA's definition of a small business concern? | SBA.gov

    ps...I still hate that you don't use quote function.
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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    hate is a strong word.

    You use small business in one argument but mom and pop in the other- which one you running with?

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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    hate is a strong word.

    You use small business in one argument but mom and pop in the other- which one you running with?
    Strongly dislike?

    I mentioned earlier, I don't like the SBA.gov definition. If you use small business, that is less than 500 employees. I don't know about you, but that ain't small in my book, however it is a huge part of our economy. When I think small business, I think about the less than 100 employee companies. Those account for about 37% of our economies employment. You can see our mega companies have about the same share as well (38%). I would argue that our small businesses (less than 100) are hugely important to our economy and that mom and pops are in fact small business.

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    Graph is from here:
    Firm size and share of employment change, 1992?2009 : The Editor’s Desk : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    What is obvious is you never have run a small business. Manufacturing is 50 to 1500 employees, wholesaling 100 to 500, services up to 21 MILLION in gross receipts...

    What most 'conservatives' call small business is actually micro, mom and pop, and hobby businesses.

    Speaking of corporations, some micro businesses take advantage of the far more favorable tax structure a corporation enjoys and call themselves a corporation. The ones I know are single person businesses, consultants and the like. They pay themselves as an employee, the corp picks up many costs for the 'employee'.

    Many family farms are incorporated. It is quite common these days, I know one that had on it's board a 6 and 9 year old child!
    Those are small businesses, right?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If you had bothered to read your own article you would see it is indeed from the Weekly Standard. Your own link says so. As does the masthead on the article itself.
    *sigh*...Weekley Standard sourced HuffPo!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: GOP leaders remove 4 from plum House committees

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    *sigh*...Weekley Standard sourced HuffPo!
    They did not. They wrote their own story based on tweets made by a person who simply happens to work for Huffington. That is a difference with a distinction. There was no story in the Huffington Post for the Weekly Standard to source.
    Your own link went to Weekly Standard........ NOT Huffington Post. Again - that was your link where the story appeared.

    But prove us wrong and simply show us where the story appeared on Huffington Post.
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