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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    How can you amend something when you don't know what is in it ??????
    Ask all 435 members of the House, since they're the ones who do so.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Pelosi was Speaker for 4 years...during that time did she attempt to reform the rules?
    I don't know.

    But no Republican Speaker reformed it before her, and, as far as I know, Boehner hasn't reformed it after her.
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't know.

    But no Republican Speaker reformed it before her, and, as far as I know, Boehner hasn't reformed it after her.
    Well, check my post again, Pelosi did change the rules. Also your claim that "No Republican reformed it before her" is just plain wrong also...

    I give you Newt, and the contract for America....

    On the first day of their majority in the House, the Republicans promised to pass eight major reforms:
    require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also apply to Congress;
    select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
    cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by one-third;
    limit the terms of all committee chairs;
    ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
    require committee meetings to be open to the public;
    require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
    guarantee an honest accounting of the Federal Budget by implementing zero base-line budgeting.

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Ask all 435 members of the House, since they're the ones who do so.
    What part of not knowing what was in it, isn't clear?

    All other bills, they know what is in the bill before it is passed.... not in the PPACA.

    So, I ask again, how can you amend a bill if you don't know what's in it in the first place?
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    So, you mean it resembles income taxes? Import duties? Cigarette Tax Stamps? 9 million other laws?

    I didn't say it was good. It just said it is what it is - the new reality in the new century. You can't breed hundreds of millions of people without creating more governing. The frontier era has passed - not just here but all over the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You mean, states don't get to pull a Calhoun anytime they wish, simply because they don't like the law?

    Jumping Christ!
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    Illegal immigration for those under 30, with Obama's dreamy executive order. Congress made the law, Obama decided not to comply. Hmm...
    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Several bad things:

    1) Sets a precedent that a citizen choosing NOT to buy a private good/service is a federally taxable "income" event. If having private medical care insurance is good, why not mandate a private alarm/secirity service with video too? Or mandate buying a car getting 55+ mpg?

    2) Makes "free" stuff be covered (from 1st dollar) by all medical care "insurance", thus raising the cost for all that do not use that "free" stuff. Imagine the increase in your auto insurance premiums if the gov't madated that it cover annual "free" tune-ups and oil changes.

    3) If the federal gov't can now simply mandate that the states implement (at state or third party cost) anything that they think is good then the state has no power at all.

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Residents of states that refuse to set up health insurance exchanges under Obamacare are set to be hit with higher premiums under new rules announced by the Health and Human Services Department.

    Insurance companies will be charged 3.5 percent of any premiums they sell through the federal exchanges, the department announced Friday.

    And insurers are likely to pass that surcharge on to clients, leaading to higher premiums.

    The only states to be affected are those that refuse to set up their own exchanges because of opposition to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They are almost certain to be those under Republican control. In those states, HHS will set up the exchanges.

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    I can suggest not to buy healthcare in an exchange.

    Another wealth transfer from producers to the recipients. The left is defunding the right...hopefully soon they will run out of other peoples money.
    Wait I thought if you liked your health insurance plan you can keep it?

    You mean Obama LIED? Say it ain't so

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    What part of not knowing what was in it, isn't clear?

    All other bills, they know what is in the bill before it is passed.... not in the PPACA.

    So, I ask again, how can you amend a bill if you don't know what's in it in the first place?

    This was purposeful, Since Pelosi changed the rules, and congress didn't write the bill....

    Robert Creamer is the husband of Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky. He formerly served as … a lobbyist for George Soros’s Open Society Institute. Today Creamer heads the Strategic Consulting Group, a political consultancy whose list of clients includes ACORN and the Service Employees International Union….

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Wait I thought if you liked your health insurance plan you can keep it?

    You mean Obama LIED? Say it ain't so
    Lets see you can keep it if it complies with government regulation. You can keep it if your insurance company never changes your coverage. You can keep it as long as they don't raise their rates. You can keep it as long as your employer doesn't lay you off or put you on part time. You can keep it and if it's a Cadillac plan you'll pay an additional 40% increase.
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This was purposeful, Since Pelosi changed the rules, and congress didn't write the bill....


    This group of progressives are criminally diabolical.
    The bill was written long before she said those words.... this we know...
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    I notice samsmart bugged out....I hope it was nothing I said.....
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