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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Residents of states that refuse to set up health insurance exchanges under Obamacare are set to be hit with higher premiums under new rules announced by the Health and Human Services Department.

    Insurance companies will be charged 3.5 percent of any premiums they sell through the federal exchanges, the department announced Friday.

    And insurers are likely to pass that surcharge on to clients, leaading to higher premiums.

    The only states to be affected are those that refuse to set up their own exchanges because of opposition to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They are almost certain to be those under Republican control. In those states, HHS will set up the exchanges.

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    I can suggest not to buy healthcare in an exchange.

    Another wealth transfer from producers to the recipients. The left is defunding the right...hopefully soon they will run out of other peoples money.
    He must have heard Scott from Florida and those Republican Governors.....huh? What do they do when the Doctors start closing up their offices and not taking any more Medicaid patients? Also Didn't the SCOTUS Rule that the Fed Couldn't raise amounts on the states as to what they already occurred for Medicaid and Medicare.

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    That's what happens when you have to 'pass a bill to see what's in it'. You get garbage.

    Say thank you, Pelosi.
    I don't know how you can honestly find Pelosi personally responsible for the House not having rules that limit the attaching of amendments to a bill before it's voted on.
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    There are many unpopular laws. Unfortunately, they're still the law. Sucks but that's how it is.

    Nobody REALLY knows how this will turn out. We'll find out the hard way. Hopefully, it won't be so bad.
    You mean, states don't get to pull a Calhoun anytime they wish, simply because they don't like the law?

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    He must have heard Scott from Florida and those Republican Governors.....huh? What do they do when the Doctors start closing up their offices and not taking any more Medicaid patients? Also Didn't the SCOTUS Rule that the Fed Couldn't raise amounts on the states as to what they already occurred for Medicaid and Medicare.

    I seem to recall something like that as well...but see this is how authoritarian progressives get what they want whether you like it or not..When you find their loophole, as in the exchanges, they smack you with a heavy handed regulation, if that doesn't work because the court says no, then ignore the court. Welcome to the United State of Chicago.
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't know how you can honestly find Pelosi personally responsible for the House not having rules that limit the attaching of amendments to a bill before it's voted on.
    Her words, and boy did we find out what was in it.... with the comfort of a hot poker....
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Residents of states that refuse to set up health insurance exchanges under Obamacare are set to be hit with higher premiums under new rules announced by the Health and Human Services Department.

    Insurance companies will be charged 3.5 percent of any premiums they sell through the federal exchanges, the department announced Friday.

    And insurers are likely to pass that surcharge on to clients, leaading to higher premiums.

    The only states to be affected are those that refuse to set up their own exchanges because of opposition to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They are almost certain to be those under Republican control. In those states, HHS will set up the exchanges.

    Read more: Obama Slaps States That Refuse to Comply With Obamacare


    I can suggest not to buy healthcare in an exchange.

    Another wealth transfer from producers to the recipients. The left is defunding the right...hopefully soon they will run out of other peoples money.
    I like this. It's just like the owner of Papa John's Pizza saying he was going to increase the cost of pizzas; he hasn't done it yet.

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    I thought Roberts said in his ruling that states could not be penalized for not setting up exchanges. Now Obama is setting up penalties???
    If it sounds like Marx and acts like Stalin...it must be Obama

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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapunzel52 View Post
    Residents of states that refuse to set up health insurance exchanges under Obamacare are set to be hit with higher premiums under new rules announced by the Health and Human Services Department.

    Insurance companies will be charged 3.5 percent of any premiums they sell through the federal exchanges, the department announced Friday.

    And insurers are likely to pass that surcharge on to clients, leaading to higher premiums.

    The only states to be affected are those that refuse to set up their own exchanges because of opposition to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. They are almost certain to be those under Republican control. In those states, HHS will set up the exchanges.

    Read more: Obama Slaps States That Refuse to Comply With Obamacare


    I can suggest not to buy healthcare in an exchange.

    Another wealth transfer from producers to the recipients. The left is defunding the right...hopefully soon they will run out of other peoples money.
    This seems to be in direct violation of the SCOTUS ruling, that made "fines" or "penalties" illegal in the original PPACA law. I believe that they were originally in the form of reduced Medicaid funding for states that did not "comply" with that unfunded mandate to set up "exchanges".

    The PPACA law basically requires you to buy from the exchanges in order to get your federal PPACA FIT subsidy.
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    "I think states should be able to ignore the law when they feel like it!"

    Yeah, ok buddy. Incidentally, you don't have to buy health insurance from an exchange if you don't want to.

    Which part of an insurance exchange strikes you as "wealth transfer?"
    The part that says those up to 400% of the poverty line (yep, lots and lots of folks) will pay only 2% to 4% of their income for their PPACA premiums, the rest comes from "others". That does not sound like income redistribution (wealth transfer) to you?
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    Re: Obama Slaps States That Don't Comply With Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Her words, and boy did we find out what was in it.... with the comfort of a hot poker....
    Her words but not her rules.

    Rules which, I believe, the Republicans in the House have yet to reform.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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