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    Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

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    “We are the people – we are the middle class, and we are getting the finger,” said frustrated resident Scott McGrath, who personally spoke to President Obama and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo when they came to Staten Island to inspect storm damage earlier this month. “You were there when I met Obama, and I told the president … that the middle class was getting the royal finger. And he said, ‘FEMA works for me.’”
    The difference between these folks and those on the Mississippi Gulf Coast who lost their homes but didn't complain about FEMA or the government is that the people in Mississippi relied on themselves and these New Yorkers thought they could rely on the government.

    People who rely mainly on the government will always find frustration and disappointment. The main function of government is to keep bureaucrats employed. All else is secondary and without much priority.

    But to be fair to FEMA, what they are tasked with doing is impossible. A federal agency can't be expected to provide assistance tailored to each individual family. Agencies are built to respond with one-size-fits-all solutions by necessity. The more the red tape is pared back the more fraud there will be.

    The best assistance comes from local groups who know the problems and know what people need.

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    people in the south don't complain about FEMA

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    people in the south don't complain about FEMA
    I assume you're ignorantly lumping the people of the Gulf Coast together. The people on the Mississippi Gulf Coast are a different group from those in New Orleans, where complaints about the government were loud and long and still haven't stopped.

    The other example is Florida, which suffered multiple hurricanes and haven't complained one tenth as much as those Democrat strongholds of New Orleans, New York, and New Jersey.

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    In my experience in many emergencies...there are always unhappy people that are victims of disasters...some people you just cant do enough for...If you read other sources victims are very happy with fema responses..in NJ they are..so are some legitimate complaints, of course..with an emergency this large this bad spread so far there are always going to be errors and miss's

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I assume you're ignorantly lumping the people of the Gulf Coast together. The people on the Mississippi Gulf Coast are a different group from those in New Orleans, where complaints about the government were loud and long and still haven't stopped.

    The other example is Florida, which suffered multiple hurricanes and haven't complained one tenth as much as those Democrat strongholds of New Orleans, New York, and New Jersey.
    Yes, when it comes to complaining about the government, Conservatives are a beacon of restraint.

    I would think you'd be thrilled that they're criticizing Obama.


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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    In my experience in many emergencies...there are always unhappy people that are victims of disasters...some people you just cant do enough for...If you read other sources victims are very happy with fema responses..in NJ they are..so are some legitimate complaints, of course..with an emergency this large this bad spread so far there are always going to be errors and miss's
    Government is usually too big to do things quickly, and counting on them to do so is a mistake. The best thing FEMA can do is coordinate the response of smaller agencies. Maybe Obama should go and organize the community.


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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Government is usually too big to do things quickly, and counting on them to do so is a mistake. The best thing FEMA can do is coordinate the response of smaller agencies. Maybe Obama should go and organize the community.

    With an emergency this size and spread out...its virtually impossible to get aid to everyone in a timely manner and no one should expect that. If your a victim and your family is miserable and in need of course your going to be angry as hell and where do you direct that anger...well at the people your expecting to help...Im not excusing mismanagement or failure...I dont know that to be the case yet

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I assume you're ignorantly lumping the people of the Gulf Coast together. The people on the Mississippi Gulf Coast are a different group from those in New Orleans, where complaints about the government were loud and long and still haven't stopped.

    The other example is Florida, which suffered multiple hurricanes and haven't complained one tenth as much as those Democrat strongholds of New Orleans, New York, and New Jersey.
    So "didn't complain" is now "didn't complain as much" --Game set match

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The difference between these folks and those on the Mississippi Gulf Coast who lost their homes but didn't complain about FEMA or the government is that the people in Mississippi relied on themselves and these New Yorkers thought they could rely on the government.

    People who rely mainly on the government will always find frustration and disappointment. The main function of government is to keep bureaucrats employed. All else is secondary and without much priority.

    But to be fair to FEMA, what they are tasked with doing is impossible. A federal agency can't be expected to provide assistance tailored to each individual family. Agencies are built to respond with one-size-fits-all solutions by necessity. The more the red tape is pared back the more fraud there will be.

    The best assistance comes from local groups who know the problems and know what people need.
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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    So "didn't complain" is now "didn't complain as much" --Game set match
    "Didn't complain as much" according to LowDown's very scientific method of measuring: Posting one article from Fox News.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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