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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I assume you're ignorantly lumping the people of the Gulf Coast together. The people on the Mississippi Gulf Coast are a different group from those in New Orleans, where complaints about the government were loud and long and still haven't stopped.

    The other example is Florida, which suffered multiple hurricanes and haven't complained one tenth as much as those Democrat strongholds of New Orleans, New York, and New Jersey.
    And you just keep going further down the ignorance scale. Florida can more easily deal with hurricanes because they always deal with hurricanes. That is what you get when you live in florida. A NY snow dusting would shut the entire state of florida down. Hell, a sprinkle of snow for Ny shuts almost any southern state down. This is because those states are simply not equipped to deal with snow removal or ice. It is not a weakness of theirs, it is just simply financially stupid to pay for the once a decade snowstorm when you live in the south. The same goes for NY. About once a decade they get a hurricane to blow up or some huge rain. this one just happened to be the once in a century storm of destruction. You cannot spend all of your state's money planning for that, and that is why we have a federal emergency assistance program that can keep a mobile force that can help states when these disasters hit.

    Just the idea of pretending florida is like Ny and areas like that is absurd. First off florida does not have mountains to deal with and run off. Seconmd florida does not have a lot of underground facilities like Ny does. Florida does not have to worry about temps that fall below zero at that time of year. Florida has trees and fauna used to tropical rains, which NY doesn't have. Florida has canals and run off areas to deal with the flooding of hurricanes. NY doesn't have that sort of run off.

    You just need to calm down and stop pretending like each area deals with the same disasters like others. The disasters hit areas differently. If you had a kansas tornado hit NY the death toll and destruction of it would dwarf any kansas tornado ever. If you had a california earthquake hit NY you would see a disaster like you could not imagine. Of course if you dump three feet of snow in Florida their houses would collapse, their utilities would be ravaged, and the people would die because they simply are not made to deal with a huge snowstorm.

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    The difference between these folks and those on the Mississippi Gulf Coast who lost their homes but didn't complain about FEMA or the government is that the people in Mississippi relied on themselves and these New Yorkers thought they could rely on the government.

    People who rely mainly on the government will always find frustration and disappointment. The main function of government is to keep bureaucrats employed. All else is secondary and without much priority.

    But to be fair to FEMA, what they are tasked with doing is impossible. A federal agency can't be expected to provide assistance tailored to each individual family. Agencies are built to respond with one-size-fits-all solutions by necessity. The more the red tape is pared back the more fraud there will be.

    The best assistance comes from local groups who know the problems and know what people need.
    I think it's clear....Obama hates white people.

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I think it's clear....Obama hates white people.

    Not all white people, just those who don't kiss his arse.... he seems to like Crispy Cream.
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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not all white people, just those who don't kiss his arse.... he seems to like Crispy Cream.
    I notice obama doesn't take any of the white people who think he should pack up and go back to kenya seriously at all. perhaps if they kissed his ass he would listen to one of their crazies?

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Having lived through one major disaster- the January 1994 earthquake in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, recovery take time. FEMA was not much help there. They did have a loan program through the SBA to retrofit foundation anchor bolts. Ought to make all the difference in the next big quake It took about one year to clear all of the collapsed homes in my old neighborhood. Some were rebuilt. Others reverted to grass and shrubs. Most of that work was paid for by insurance companies and/or the homeowners. I do not recall any FEMA involvement in site clearance. FEMA may have transfered money to the City of LA. I do not know how much FEMA can really do for these folks in NY. One of the big problems in that quake clean-up was landfill locations to receive all the debris of collapsed houses. Perhaps FEMA can reduce some of the restrictions on opening new dump sites offshore. That might be more efficient that trying to truck it in-land.

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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by Queequeg View Post
    Having lived through one major disaster- the January 1994 earthquake in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles, recovery take time. FEMA was not much help there. They did have a loan program through the SBA to retrofit foundation anchor bolts. Ought to make all the difference in the next big quake It took about one year to clear all of the collapsed homes in my old neighborhood. Some were rebuilt. Others reverted to grass and shrubs. Most of that work was paid for by insurance companies and/or the homeowners. I do not recall any FEMA involvement in site clearance. FEMA may have transfered money to the City of LA. I do not know how much FEMA can really do for these folks in NY. One of the big problems in that quake clean-up was landfill locations to receive all the debris of collapsed houses. Perhaps FEMA can reduce some of the restrictions on opening new dump sites offshore. That might be more efficient that trying to truck it in-land.
    Good points. The federal government does best at writing checks and waiving the routine chickensh!t regulations for the duration of the emergency. They do not do well as first responders.
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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I notice obama doesn't take any of the white people who think he should pack up and go back to kenya seriously at all. perhaps if they kissed his ass he would listen to one of their crazies?

    Nor should he...But I am interested....Who are these 'White people that think he should pack up and go back to Kenya"? Oh, and be sure to back this up with links to show who you think they represent.
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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why would Obama and Democrats do anything for New Yorkers? They will vote Democrat regardless and will blame it on Republicans anyway.

    Once Obama had Christy's endorsement he flew off to Las Vegas because there was no reason left for him to do anything. He got more than he should have been able to hope for. Why stick around?
    It's pretty damn sad when you think that the President will only help people to get votes and that in states that are solid blue he would treat people there differently than anywhere else in the country. The mere fact that you believe such a ridiculous premise is sad for you.

    People who lost everything and have nothing are naturally going to be dissatisfied many times during the rebuilding process no matter what anyone does. It's impossible to avoid.

    Believing that New Yorkers are whining more than people from Mississippi is inane too. When it comes to disasters people of all sorts react all different types of ways and it has nothing to do with if they're in NY, MS or anywhere else.

    The posts from some of you that so want to politicize this since you lost the election and you feel lost in general is also sad. Comparing the horrible response of the Bush Administration to the immediate and considerate response of the Obama Administration is like comparing apples to concrete.
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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Probably be redundant to mention that Romney's a good guy, if he'd been elected, he would have taken good care of you by now, even if Obama had tried to stop him.
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    re: Angry New Yorkers say Obama pledge to cut red tape ignored by FEMA [W:36]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, Obama is not a super anything...In fact his action in disaster is by now predictable...When the oil spilled in the Gulf, he sprinkled a little Dawn and then forgot about it.. Same here, he flew to NJ, got Crispy Cream to endorse his oh so caring response, then he's out....good luck Rockaway's, good luck LI, good luck Point Pleasant, your on your own now...

    At least there is a little entertainment in that I am sure that liberals/progressives are looking for a way to blame it on Bush....
    So Obama does something... and it's big bad government... he does nothing... and he's not doing enough?

    Still sore about Obama winning I see. This goes here:

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