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    Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    South Lyon teacher suspended for playing song about being gay - Fox 2 News Headlines

    Freedom of Speech issue?

    One student asked to play the song. Since it wasn't violent or explicit, the teacher said it was OK. Another student took offense to the song and complained to the Principal. Teacher got suspended.


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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    South Lyon teacher suspended for playing song about being gay - Fox 2 News Headlines

    Freedom of Speech issue?

    One student asked to play the song. Since it wasn't violent or explicit, the teacher said it was OK. Another student took offense to the song and complained to the Principal. Teacher got suspended.
    I think this is a prime example of political correctness gone wrong. Much like if a teacher played a song about being a Christian, and some kid got offended, the teacher would also be suspended.

    There comes a time when the sillyness has to stop from all sides and just accept that you will NEVER be 100% not offended by something.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Here are the song lyrics:

    When I was in the third grade I thought that I was gay
    ‘Cause I could draw, and my uncle was, and I kept my room straight
    I told my mom tears rushing down my face
    She’s like “Ben you've loved girls since before pre-k shrimp”
    Trippin’, yeah, I guess she had a point, didn’t she?
    Bunch of stereotypes all in my head.
    I remember doing the math like, “yea I’m good at little league”
    A preconceived idea of what it all meant
    For those that liked the same sex
    Had the characteristics
    The right wing conservatives think it’s a decision
    And you can be cured with some treatment and religion
    Man made rewiring of a predisposition
    Playing god, aw nah here we go
    America the brave still fears what we don’t know
    And god loves all his children, is somehow forgotten
    But we paraphrase a book written thirty-five-hundred years ago
    I don’t know

    And I can’t change
    Even if I tried
    Even if I wanted to
    I can't change
    Even if I try
    Even if I wanted to
    My love
    My love
    My love
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm

    If I was gay, I would think hip-hop hates me
    Have you read the YouTube comments lately
    "Man, that’s gay" gets dropped on the daily
    We become so numb to what we’re saying
    A culture founded from oppression
    Yet we don’t have acceptance for ‘em
    Call each other faggots behind the keys of a message board
    A word rooted in hate, yet our genre still ignores it
    Gay is synonymous with the lesser
    It’s the same hate that’s caused wars from religion
    Gender to skin color, the complexion of your pigment
    The same fight that led people to walk outs and sit ins
    It’s human rights for everybody, there is no difference!
    Live on and be yourself
    When I was at church they taught me something else
    If you preach hate at the service those words aren’t anointed
    That holy water that you soak in is then poisoned
    When everyone else is more comfortable remaining voiceless
    Rather than fighting for humans that have had their rights stolen
    I might not be the same, but that’s not important
    No freedom till we’re equal, damn right I support it

    And I can’t change
    Even if I tried
    Even if I wanted to
    My love
    My love
    My love
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm

    We press play, don’t press pause
    Progress, march on
    With the veil over our eyes
    We turn our back on the cause
    Till the day that my uncles can be united by law
    When kids are walking ‘round the hallway plagued by pain in their heart
    A world so hateful some would rather die than be who they are
    And a certificate on paper isn’t gonna solve it all
    But it’s a damn good place to start
    No law is gonna change us
    We have to change us
    Whatever god we believe in
    We come from the same one
    Strip away the fear
    Underneath it’s all the same love
    About time that we raised up

    And I can’t change
    Even if I tried
    Even if I wanted to
    I can't change
    Even if I try
    Even if I wanted to
    My love
    My love
    My love
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    She keeps me warm
    Love is patient
    Love is kind
    Love is patient
    Love is kind
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is patient
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is kind
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is patient
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is kind
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is patient
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is kind
    (I‘m not crying on Sundays)
    Love is patient
    Love is kind
    I really don't see why the teacher should have been suspended for this. The song's message is amazing. Perhaps there should have been more consideration of why the offended kid was offended...seems that's where the real problem lies.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Conservative correctness - RationalWiki

    Conservative correctness is a term referring to a brand of political correctness practiced by conservatives. Where as political correctness attempts to minimize offense through the rebranding of certain words and terms to be neutral or inclusive, its conservative counterpart rebrands terms to include extreme political bias. Concepts which are liked are Americanized or linked with positive thoughts such as freedom or liberty, while the disliked terms are rebranded in the most negative light possible - notably describing homosexuality as an "unnatural vice", for example. "C.C." is especially ironic considering that the most heated decrying of "P.C." usually comes from conservatives.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    South Lyon teacher suspended for playing song about being gay - Fox 2 News Headlines

    Freedom of Speech issue?

    One student asked to play the song. Since it wasn't violent or explicit, the teacher said it was OK. Another student took offense to the song and complained to the Principal. Teacher got suspended.
    You know - I had to read the lyrics:
    MACKLEMORE - SAME LOVE LYRICS

    And then I thought to my Theater and Dance class last semester - almost EVERYTHING we learned about regarding modern theater and music had to do with homosexuality. . . it comes up when you're in that subject.

    Now - thinking back to this - they're in the 8th grade.

    1) Is there a rule or guideline that explicitly states the content of music should be considered?
    2) Is there a rule or guideline that explicitly states that the content of music should be heard ahead of time before okaying to listen to?


    I think the teacher in the OP shouldn't be suspended - but instead they should consider defining what is ok to play in school and what isn't. They push violence - etc - so she asked about that. if she asked 'what is it about?" and he said 'homosexuality' what would she have done?

    Honestly - I was shocked when my kids said they were listening the LMFAO's 'Sexy and I Know It" song in class. . . but the lyrics of the aforementioned song aren't about sex. . . so apparently it's all in response to the complaint from the student. . . which is a school-by-school issue.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You know - I had to read the lyrics:
    MACKLEMORE - SAME LOVE LYRICS

    And then I thought to my Theater and Dance class last semester - almost EVERYTHING we learned about regarding modern theater and music had to do with homosexuality. . . it comes up when you're in that subject.

    Now - thinking back to this - they're in the 8th grade.

    1) Is there a rule or guideline that explicitly states the content of music should be considered?
    2) Is there a rule or guideline that explicitly states that the content of music should be heard ahead of time before okaying to listen to?


    I think the teacher in the OP shouldn't be suspended - but instead they should consider defining what is ok to play in school and what isn't. They push violence - etc - so she asked about that. if she asked 'what is it about?" and he said 'homosexuality' what would she have done?

    Honestly - I was shocked when my kids said they were listening the LMFAO's 'Sexy and I Know It" song in class. . . but the lyrics of the aforementioned song aren't about sex. . . so apparently it's all in response to the complaint from the student. . . which is a school-by-school issue.
    I see the point. I understand that there may be a rule in place about certain things, but if the song had been about how he loves his girlfriend, there would be no issue.


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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Here are the song lyrics:



    I really don't see why the teacher should have been suspended for this. The song's message is amazing. Perhaps there should have been more consideration of why the offended kid was offended...seems that's where the real problem lies.
    This, ridiculous to get offended by this song.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    South Lyon teacher suspended for playing song about being gay - Fox 2 News Headlines

    Freedom of Speech issue?

    One student asked to play the song. Since it wasn't violent or explicit, the teacher said it was OK. Another student took offense to the song and complained to the Principal. Teacher got suspended.
    This is the perfect example of people being offended over things that really don't matter...
    So a song had something to do with gays, why does that effect someone? People need to stop being so butthurt, and accept that there are gays in the world and that they're just as natural as anyone else.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by LoopyPaladin View Post
    This is the perfect example of people being offended over things that really don't matter...
    So a song had something to do with gays, why does that effect someone? People need to stop being so butthurt, and accept that there are gays in the world and that they're just as natural as anyone else.
    In fairness, that should also go for songs about being Christian. However, the elementary school near our house is not allowed to play any songs dealing with religion because it may "offend" someone.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Says student played music on class. Now the student can't play music on class but should pay attention to the lectures. Was this an assignment?

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