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Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

lpast said:
Your a name calling little twerp...but thats all you have ever been on here since ive been here...you like to puff up on here like your an imaginery tough guy lol....now pay attention close atttention because after this I shall not participate in your name calling and labeling.
I dont give one bit a **** what you or anyone else want to consider or call my stance on homosexuality...My beliefs will change when I believe I can see where I was wrong...not because a few chumps want to try and bogart me...lol...that never worked in real life.
Im tired of the silly crap that goes on here with gays...you have gays that not only want everything...they demand it...then you have their flock of cheerleaders that come behind them and attempt to label and belittle and badger anyone that dares disagree with ANY any part of anything gay and make them out to be vile dirtbags....well go for it I COULDNT GIVE A **** LESS...about you them or any one else that wants to play that game.
You want to believe I hate gays...GO FOR IT I dont care..as long as my daughter knows the truth thats the only thing important to me....want to label me a homophobe any gay or you that wants to step to me in real will find out how scared I am...roflmaooooool....want to call me a bigot..cool im good with that...I believe what I believe and not only dont I give a **** if you like it or not...you have no chance of every changing it...
So take your self righteous Im always right and I know everything attitude and say gbye...cuz thats all your getting from me on this topic from here on out...now goodbye :)
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tl/dr.

Your post summarized in one picture:

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You wrote all that nonsense to simply say you didn't care about being called a bigot as you rightfully should be. Why even reply? You're a homophobe. Deal with it. :shrug:
 
Hatuey said:
tl/dr.

Your post summarized in one picture:

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You wrote all that nonsense to simply say you didn't care about being called a bigot as you rightfully should be. Why even reply? You're a homophobe. Deal with it. :shrug:
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I dont need a picture to summarize your post...I said plainly what I thought of your typical baiting and you...go back and re read it and ...shoo I have no more time for gay baiters or race baiters and false chest puffers or any other baters...cya
 
It's a good thing the society we live in is so egalitarian. This is pathetic, I suppose that if a homosexual reported offense to playing "American Girl" in class, the teacher would also be suspended?
 
lpast said:
I dont need a post to summarize your post...I said plainly what I thought of your typical baiting and you...go back and read it and ...shoo I have no more time for gay baiters or race baiters or any other baters...cya
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Says the guy who claims gay men wear panties and play husband and wife. Is that how you speak around your daughter? You've definitely shown your true colors. The best part is that you can't come to terms that being accepting of gay does not necessarily make one 'pro-gay' whatever that means but balk at the thought that being unaccepting of homosexuality as a fact, makes you a homophobe.
 
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Hatuey said:
Says the guy who claims gay men wear panties and play husband and wife. Is that how you speak around your daughter? Good show. Straight A parenting. You're definitely showing your true colors ;).
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You shouldnt have mentioned my daughter...now your on ignore
 
Mr.Nick said:
Homosexuality is a disorder any way you slice the pie considering homosexuality violates the laws of nature - the desire to reproduce (naturally)...
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This is an ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a disorder, as proven, scientifically... based on the definition of disorder. Further, it is natural, since it occurs in nature (the definition of natural) and reproduction does not define sexual orientation. Wow... you were wrong THREE times in one short sentence. Must be some kind of record. Let's continue...

From an anthropological perspective homosexuality makes no sense. Then again humans are not perfect.
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From an anthropological standpoint, we have no idea what the purpose of homosexuality is... or if it has a purpose... and this is actually pretty irrelevant.

I suppose we all have our brains wired the way we do in different fashions...
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So, you are claiming that sexual orientation is not a choice?
 
vendur said:
Not really strange at all unless you are completely ignorant of the hijacking of the educational establishment in all the "soft sciences" by leftist ideology, supplanting basic logic and the scientific method.

"Righties" don't want to give massive grants to a bunch of desk-bound losers who can't get real jobs nor provide anything useful to society, so academia now has become more of a leftwing mouthpiece, especially in the soft sciences. Gimmedat grant money. "Lefties" love to pay of liars if they are singing a song they enjoy, so it's a happy marriage.
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Actually, "righties" could care less about learning anything new. They just prefer to stay with old, tired hypothesis like the earth being flat.

See? I can post dumb partisan hack stuff too. Oh wait... you were serious.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
This is an ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a disorder, as proven, scientifically... based on the definition of disorder. Further, it is natural, since it occurs in nature (the definition of natural) and reproduction does not define sexual orientation. Wow... you were wrong THREE times in one short sentence. Must be some kind of record. Let's continue...



From an anthropological standpoint, we have no idea what the purpose of homosexuality is... or if it has a purpose... and this is actually pretty irrelevant.



So, you are claiming that sexual orientation is not a choice?
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My children only set foot in public schools to compete in academic and athletic competitions. They will NEVER set foot in one for the purpose of education. Because to be blunt public schools are vastly inferior. The public school education nowdays is a joke. A bad one at that. All politics and no education. I dont have to put up with this kind of crap. I just fire the tutor if they cross my lines.

Why was this person playing songs of any nature during the class, if it wasnt a music class or at least related to the subject at hand? And why were they taking requests in the first place? A private reprimand I can see, suspenion if it was a repeated violation I supose.
 
clownboy said:
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Fail:

The Court held that the policy allowing the student led prayer at the football games was unconstitutional. The majority opinion, written by Justice Stevens, depended on Lee v. Weisman.[SUP][2][/SUP] It held that these pre-game prayers delivered "on school property, at school-sponsored events, over the school's public address system, by a speaker representing the student body, under the supervision of school faculty, and pursuant to a school policy that explicitly and implicitly encourages public prayer" are not private, but public speech. "Regardless of the listener's support for, or objection to, the message, an objective Santa Fe High School student will unquestionably perceive the inevitable pregame prayer as stamped with her school's seal of approval."
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Santa Fe Independent School Dist. v. Doe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Try again. The actual ruling in the cited case does not support your position and reinforces mine that students, by themselves can say whatever they want as long as it's not disruptive and that prayer when it is sanctioned by the school is what the SCOTUS has barred. All the case shows is that SCOTUS has done exactly that: bar prayer when it is lead or sanctioned by the school.
 
Dooble said:
Point out ONE incident where a student was allowed to open communication with his maker IN the classroom, OUT loud, in front of teacher and classmates.
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Point out ONE incident where a student was not allowed to open communication with his maker IN the classroom, OUT loud when he was not disruptive.

You don't seem to understand the difference between letting students do what they want if it is not disruptive and having the state via the school sanction it and openly violate the 1st amendment.
 
obvious Child said:
Point out ONE incident where a student was not allowed to open communication with his maker IN the classroom, OUT loud when he was not disruptive.
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Nice dodge. One thing that is important to point out now, is that you don't know how to answer questions.

obvious Child said:
You don't seem to understand the difference between letting students do what they want if it is not disruptive and having the state via the school sanction it and openly violate the 1st amendment.
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I understand perfectly. What you don't seem to understand is that anti-Christian filth took center stage in the classroom, and we're here to restore prayer to its rightful place.
 
Dooble said:
I understand perfectly. What you don't seem to understand is that anti-Christian filth took center stage in the classroom, and we're here to restore prayer to its rightful place.
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So those who are "anti-Christian" are fifth? Is this some of this vaulted conservative tolerance that we hear so much about?

And who told you that prayer's rightful place is in the classroom? I'll give you a hint... whoever told you that doesn't know what they are talking about.
 
Mr.Nick said:
...homosexuality violates the laws of nature - the desire to reproduce (naturally)...

From an anthropological perspective homosexuality makes no sense. Then again humans are not perfect.

I suppose we all have our brains wired the way we do in different fashions...
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Two women may afford to be gay evolutionary speaking since they may put themselves under a straight sexual experience just for procreation. But the issue with men it seems to me to be the happiest way one ends a family bloodline. So sharp and in a counterdirection of life do I find this notion to be after all the wars man waged to survive, but if they are happy with it leaves more females for us right.

Perhaps gay community are the leading cloning scientists. Struggling to find their way in competing with the rest of people where procreation is a given (not as often used though) option.

Junior - YouTube
 
Dooble said:
Nice dodge. One thing that is important to point out now, is that you don't know how to answer questions.
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That's ironic coming from you. Point still stands, students have never been barred from practicing their own prayers in a non-disruptive way in public school. You don't seem to understand the difference between student prayer and school sanctioned practice.

I understand perfectly. What you don't seem to understand is that anti-Christian filth took center stage in the classroom, and we're here to restore prayer to its rightful place.
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No, you don't understand. You are classifying school sanctioned prayer as the same thing as student prayer. What you don't seem to understand is what the Bill of Rights says.
 
Dooble said:
Agreed. That's why Christian students should be allowed to pray out loud in their classrooms at the start of each school day.
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I dont see a problem with that as long as its done before class starts.
 
Dooble said:
I understand perfectly. What you don't seem to understand is that anti-Christian filth took center stage in the classroom, and we're here to restore prayer to its rightful place.
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What do you mean when you say anti-Christian filth took center stage in the classroom? Be specific please. Is it evolution, tolerance, something else?

And a student can pray, but that doesn't mean teaching religion or leading students in prayer in public school is OK.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Actually, "righties" could care less about learning anything new. They just prefer to stay with old, tired hypothesis like the earth being flat.

See? I can post dumb partisan hack stuff too. Oh wait... you were serious.
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Wait, isn't the lefty canard that the nazis were right wing? So how is it possible since Nazi Germany was the most scientifically advanced country in the world?

Hrrrmmmmmmmmmm. When leftwing canards collide!
 
vendur said:
Not really strange at all unless you are completely ignorant of the hijacking of the educational establishment in all the "soft sciences" by leftist ideology, supplanting basic logic and the scientific method.

"Righties" don't want to give massive grants to a bunch of desk-bound losers who can't get real jobs nor provide anything useful to society, so academia now has become more of a leftwing mouthpiece, especially in the soft sciences. Gimmedat grant money. "Lefties" love to pay of liars if they are singing a song they enjoy, so it's a happy marriage.
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Please, I'm surrounded by academics every day. Using that on me isn't going to change the fact that we had good reason, long ago, to remove homosexuality from disorder category.
 
Most of this sort of thing goes on when parents leave values lessons to people who should be teaching Math, and Science. I wonder if the same level of just teaching "tolerance" would adhere if the song being played were Christian hymn's.
 
vendur said:
Wait, isn't the lefty canard that the nazis were right wing? So how is it possible since Nazi Germany was the most scientifically advanced country in the world?

Hrrrmmmmmmmmmm. When leftwing canards collide!
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It is amazing what an authoritarian, brutal, right wing system can create, isn't it?
 
Fiddytree said:
Please, I'm surrounded by academics every day. Using that on me isn't going to change the fact that we had good reason, long ago, to remove homosexuality from disorder category.
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Ya, sure. voyeurism is a "disorder", yet homosexuality is not. Fetishism is a disorder, yet homosexuality is not. homosexuality was removed only due to pressure of homosexuals themselves and the media who pushes their garbage down everyone's throat. The musings amongst the bubble of PC fools you surround yourself with, who probably couldn't even pass a freshman real science class, have little bearing on the actual reality of why it was removed.
 
vendur said:
Ya, sure. voyeurism is a "disorder", yet homosexuality is not. Fetishism is a disorder, yet homosexuality is not. homosexuality was removed only due to pressure of homosexuals themselves and the media who pushes their garbage down everyone's throat. The musings amongst the bubble of PC fools you surround yourself with, who probably couldn't even pass a freshman real science class, have little bearing on the actual reality of why it was removed.
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Ummm a sexual orientation cannot be compared to a fetish. Unless you want to compare heterosexuality to a fetish.

And no it wanst removed due to pressure of gay people. All gay people wanted was for the APA to look at a study that suggested that homosexuality wasnt a mental disorder and after 8 years of trying they finally did. Ive noticed when people make claims like yours they never offer any sort of proof to go along with it. So please if you have proof to back up your claims go ahead and post it.
 
Dooble said:
Agreed. That's why Christian students should be allowed to pray out loud in their classrooms at the start of each school day.
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Tell you what. Let's let students arrive in time so that they can meet for prayer in classrooms for a few minutes before the official start of classes. That way everyone who wants to participate in this 'edification' can do so, and those who don't want to get to do what they want to do.

Oh, I forgot another of my conditions: Teachers cannot be present. This means the thing is entirely student led, as it should be. I will get my popcorn and wait for the religious infighting that will inevitably develop, to which the school staff should not be allowed to interfere. Then we will all have achieved our civics lesson as to WHY THERE IS A SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Religions are only nice to each other in societies where there is that separation. Once it is torn down, they always want to use government force to promote their own brand or doctrines.
 
This is pretty simple as I see it...if your going to allow songs to be sung that are about any social group or social event...fine...just allow others to do the same thing...in this case it was a song about homosexuals...i dont have a problem with the song..My problem is that some want to insinuate that allowing a song about homosexuality is righteous and a civil rights issue and singing a christian song or religious song should not be allowed in school its offensive...this is the kind of thing that creates roadblocks it does not break down barriers...ALLOW BOTH or none...
 
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