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Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

It very strongly correlates to physical location in the country. Most of the time, no, but biology classes in much of the South have become de facto religious classes in the past ten to fifteen years. In fact, the public school system in the southern fourth of the country is becoming increasingly indistinguishable from parochial schools, save the emphasis tends to be on evangelical Protestantism.

I went to high school in the South, with in the last 10-15 years, we learned about evolution.
We did not learn about god.
 
Based on those lyrics, I would say this is an intensely political song, and does enter into partisan territory at points, so in judging the actions taken, the first question I would ask would be in regards to whether a rap (or other) song dissing liberals would receive the same treatment? If so, then the actions taken might be understandable, but if not, then there would be reason to suspect political bias.
 
I went to high school in the South, with in the last 10-15 years, we learned about evolution.
We did not learn about god.

So did I. And my 'education' in the public school was a lot more like this:

 
Your mean some people actually would object to a teacher of middle school students playing music that:

1. That calls gays "f..gots"
2. That attacks conservatives
3. The ridicules the Bible
4. That declares there is a universal God as a fact
5. That attacks the Catholic church
6. That declares the Catholic religion is "hate"
7. That baptismal water is "poison"
8. That the world is so hateful that children rightly want to die

I can't imagine to anyone objecting to that. Everyone knows there is a universal God and atheists are liars and idiots, Christians are the most hateful people on earth, the Bible is an outdated joke, that gays are just f..gots, and really child should just commit suicide to avoid a hateful world.

That is what 13 years need to know. The world is hateful, best to just commit suicide if anyone is giving you a hard time or you are unhappy.

Oh, yes, and then claimed before cameras that anyone who disagrees with any of that ^ is a "BIGOT." I say who is the "bigot" is that teacher - and trying to impose her prejudices, her religion, her politics and her bigotry on her students.

Teachers can do their own free speech on their own time on their own dime to an audience not required by law to listen and then be tested on it.

As this type story comes up over and over again, are students EVER told it's ok to be straight?
 
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Don't be a jerk, dude. You can't pray or have a bible study group in any public school in the U.S. and that is flat out not fair. I would hope you could have a fair and friendly discussion of the issue unlike most internet gadflies who live to troll.

Exactly. They want to limit our bible study groups to our homes or our churches. How unfair is that?
 
So did I. And my 'education' in the public school was a lot more like this:



Well maybe that was your experience, but I can't remember a single time in Biology or any other science class where we discussed religion or god.
Other than to say, "your religious beliefs are not being discussed here."

I think the mass characterization you made, was wrong.
 
Well maybe that was your experience, but I can't remember a single time in Biology or any other science class where we discussed religion or god.
Other than to say, "your religious beliefs are not being discussed here."

I think the mass characterization you made, was wrong.

If it's not in every public school in the South, then it's in a large number of public schools in the South - entirely too many of them.
 
When is this ridiculous PC era going to end?
 
Exactly. They want to limit our bible study groups to our homes or our churches. How unfair is that?

The schools are for science and putting religion there would afford religion more influence than it already has. Thus the two should be separate.

But a trade could be a very interesting idea actually. Science, stripped of religion and all that it has, being taught on a religious site. In Persia multiple religious followers translated much of what may have been lost forever to wars and thus made knowledge prevail. So it has been done before.
 
If it's not in every public school in the South, then it's in a large number of public schools in the South - entirely too many of them.

Plus why is "public schools" emphasized? What, private schools have religion teachings in them then?
 
That the influence of Catholicism in America ought to be curtailed. (Consider that the first push to remove religion from the school system came, not from liberal Democratic radicals, but conservative Republicans in the 1920s in the Midwest to fight Catholicism.)

Blaine Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Oregon Compulsory Education Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Believe me, I understand that northeastern establishment Christians and born again evangelicals consider Catholicism to be apostasy (odd considering that the Catholic church was THE Christian church until all those other Protestant divisions started making up new rules, but I digress). But the Blaine Amendment appears more to be a blow against the Irish rather than Catholicism.

I'm sorry if you hold on to the totally antiquated notion that the Papists will follow the Pope's marching orders rather than the Presidents when it comes to state law, but that gives you no right to be a bigot or pass selective laws against us.
 
Believe me, I understand that northeastern establishment Christians and born again evangelicals consider Catholicism to be apostasy (odd considering that the Catholic church was THE Christian church until all those other Protestant divisions started making up new rules, but I digress). But the Blaine Amendment appears more to be a blow against the Irish rather than Catholicism.

It was part of a conservative anti-Catholic campaign that began in the 1880s and extended into the 1920s. It included areas where there were virtually no Irish Catholics, including Wisconsin.

Bennett Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm sorry if you hold on to the totally antiquated notion that the Papists will follow the Pope's marching orders rather than the Presidents when it comes to state law, but that gives you no right to be a bigot or pass selective laws against us.

'Bigotry' has a bad reputation. Catholics are happy to be bigoted against homosexuals and atheists; I'm happy to be bigoted against Catholics. As for the rest, I identify culturally with White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism (High Church, not the evangelical swill). And I would have supported them in the 1920s against the Catholics who raided the patronage jobs and supported the corrupt machines.
 
Catholics are happy to be bigoted against homosexuals and atheists; I'm happy to be bigoted against Catholics.


Thank you for speaking for yourself; I'll thank you in advance for not speaking for Catholics in the future, since you are hardly a neutral observer.
 
Thank you for speaking for yourself; I'll thank you in advance for not speaking for Catholics in the future, since you are hardly a neutral observer.

That's fine. I still think Washington's suggestion that the "Cajon element" be rounded up and deported to France a fine idea.
 
Sounds like brain washing. In another thread brain washing kids isn't ok and should be denounced by the government.
 
That's the kind of bizarre conception of playing a tune I've come to expect around here. Brainwashing?
 
That's the kind of bizarre conception of playing a tune I've come to expect around here. Brainwashing?

Anything less than full-throated condemnation of homosexuality as being EVIL and whatnot is brainwashing.
 
My bet it was this lyric that caused the stir.

The right wing conservatives think it’s a decision
 
Anyone remember the Tom Robinson Band anthem? Sing if You're Glad to be Gay (sing if you're happy that way!)
 
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