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Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

It's not the sexuality of children SP's are interested in, its their gullability. SP's understood many, many years ago that they could NOT in any way voice thier message at the forefront, instead they realized that change is slow to occur, and that SP's needed to be in positions that would most affect that change. Conservatives on the other hand only began noticing 10 - 15 years ago and stated fighting back. Are they too late? Maybe, look at the last election as an example of two generations, perhaps three that are too far gone. It does present a philosophical conundrumn for modern day conservatives on how to properly fight back within our system of government. Should they go back, or should they begin anew? What should modern conservativsm have as its most important goal? Like the nibbling away at social values over decades the SP's accomplished, can that same strategy be employed in the reverse? All good questions, but I fear I'm at a loss as to how one might accomplish it, given our modern day divisionist society.


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I'm always amused by these kinds of paranoid fantasies. At least most folks understand that there is not a shred of accuracy in anything posted above.
 
Libertarians are an odd placement for the founders of this country if you actually consider the first two administrations and a popular political Party until the 1810s. Big government, anti-democratic conservatives hold just as much to the foundation of this country.

Our founders were libertarian/classical liberals. I suppose there was some disagreement on the logistics of how to retain such ideas, however the premise of liberty was always at the forefront.
 
Our founders were libertarian/classical liberals. I suppose there was some disagreement on the logistics of how to retain such ideas, however the premise of liberty was always at the forefront.


Yeah, not anymore....Liberty I feel is seen as a threat to progressive goals.
 
I think this is a prime example of political correctness gone wrong. Much like if a teacher played a song about being a Christian, and some kid got offended, the teacher would also be suspended.

There comes a time when the sillyness has to stop from all sides and just accept that you will NEVER be 100% not offended by something.

I certainly agree but we live in such a litigious society that I definitely see where the school is coming from too.
 
Libertarians are an odd placement for the founders of this country if you actually consider the first two administrations and a popular political Party until the 1810s. Big government, anti-democratic conservatives hold just as much to the foundation of this country.

The concept of "big government" today is vastly different than during the Washington and Adams Administrations.
 
Our founders were libertarian/classical liberals. I suppose there was some disagreement on the logistics of how to retain such ideas, however the premise of liberty was always at the forefront.

Sure, keep telling yourself that. Libertarians ought to disdain the administrations of Washington and Adams. Isolate political power to the pseudo-aristocracy of America, have your political representatives representing the people-but telling them that they themselves make the decisions-not the people, enjoy state-based religion, enjoy loose interpretation of the Constitution, encourage the Supreme Court as having judicial review, have the President surrounded by monarchistic tendencies of court, promote a National Bank,a national university, high protective tariffs, crush political dissent in times of near-war and rebellion, turn the state's attention toward a strong-national government instead of state power.

You folks are the Jeffersonians..frequently accused of being mere Jacobins in their eyes...democrats with fanciful views of the extent of human liberty and the progress of History.

The concept of "big government" today is vastly different than during the Washington and Adams Administrations.

It sure is. It's more democratic, but it still sees the national government as the center of political discourse.
 
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More uneducated crap. In 1973, when homosexuality was de-classified as a diagnosis, it occurred because a whole host of research that many had REFUSED to be allowed to be presented, finally was. Succinctly... they finally listened to research and threw the uneducated and the bigots (often extreme conservatives) out the door.

Blah, blah, blah. Uneducated this, uneducated that. Heh. What a joke. Why would any sane, unbiased person believe some random poster on the internet, like you, as opposed to a former president of the APA itself? I'm sure mister internet noboy knows way more than he does. Uh-huh.
 
Blah, blah, blah. Uneducated this, uneducated that. Heh. What a joke. Why would any sane, unbiased person believe some random poster on the internet, like you, as opposed to a former president of the APA itself? I'm sure mister internet noboy knows way more than he does. Uh-huh.

I posted all the information that demonstrates that you are uneducated and know nothing on this topic. This is now fact. Don't like it? Educate yourself.
 
I have never been able to figure out what the hell a libertarian is. Libertarian, left, right, moderate, which one is it? You can't have it three ways.
 
I almost feel sorry for school administrators these days. It's a no-win job. No matter what happens in your school, somebody's going to crawl up your ass about it.
 
I almost feel sorry for school administrators these days. It's a no-win job. No matter what happens in your school, somebody's going to crawl up your ass about it.

Better that than a gerbil!:shock:
 
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Exactly, hence the terminology "progressive"...... What exactly are they progressing to? I've asked die hard progressives that question several times and have never have got an answer.

As a libertarian (and conservative) I can tell you what I'm trying to conserve and that is classical liberalism and the ideas that founded this land, however these alleged "liberals" er progressives cannot tell me their socioeconomic goal. "Progress" in my opinion seems to be a wandering fashion and a wandering political philosophy.

You can't be a Libertarain and a Conservative. Conservatism goes against the core principles of Libertarianism.

The fact that you can't see this tells me what you really are.
 
Libertarians are an odd placement for the founders of this country if you actually consider the first two administrations and a popular political Party until the 1810s. Big government, anti-democratic conservatives hold just as much to the foundation of this country.

History is an inconvenient truth to a true believer.

Adams was certainly no Libertarian (Alien and Sedition Acts??)
 
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