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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Interesting question. I had a discussion with Jerry about this precise issue several years ago. If an individual begins to exhibit "homosexual" behaviors after a traumatic event (such as abuse) or after a failed relationship, I would question whether this was a reaction to distress because of the triggering issue. This could be nothing more than a set of symptoms of an actual psychological disorder... depression, PTSD, or some psychosexual disorder. If it was due to one of these diagnoses, I would NOT conclude anything about their sexual orientation until they received treatment for these issues. Is it possible that they really are homosexual? Yes. Is it possible that they are NOT and the behaviors that they exhibit are the result of actual distress caused by a psychiatric issue? Yes. First step would be to help the individual explore the triggering issue, THEN try to help them to determine their sexual orientation.

    So, I guess the answer to your question is, no, I do not believe that a trauma like you mention can "change" one's sexual orientation. The "change" one might see is either a problematic reaction to the trauma, or the presentation of something that was hidden.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Oh and what the hell does sexuality have to do with art when you're dealing with kids?

    When is the transsexual rap song coming out?

    Isn't sexuality a private thing when you're twelve-teen? What the hell is a matter with these teachers??

    It's like these progressives are obsessed with the sexuality of children.....
    It's not the sexuality of children SP's are interested in, its their gullability. SP's understood many, many years ago that they could NOT in any way voice thier message at the forefront, instead they realized that change is slow to occur, and that SP's needed to be in positions that would most affect that change. Conservatives on the other hand only began noticing 10 - 15 years ago and stated fighting back. Are they too late? Maybe, look at the last election as an example of two generations, perhaps three that are too far gone. It does present a philosophical conundrumn for modern day conservatives on how to properly fight back within our system of government. Should they go back, or should they begin anew? What should modern conservativsm have as its most important goal? Like the nibbling away at social values over decades the SP's accomplished, can that same strategy be employed in the reverse? All good questions, but I fear I'm at a loss as to how one might accomplish it, given our modern day divisionist society.


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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    I remember singing, "I'm a gay caballero" in elementary and nobody cared.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It's not the sexuality of children SP's are interested in, its their gullability. SP's understood many, many years ago that they could NOT in any way voice thier message at the forefront, instead they realized that change is slow to occur, and that SP's needed to be in positions that would most affect that change. Conservatives on the other hand only began noticing 10 - 15 years ago and stated fighting back. Are they too late? Maybe, look at the last election as an example of two generations, perhaps three that are too far gone. It does present a philosophical conundrumn for modern day conservatives on how to properly fight back within our system of government. Should they go back, or should they begin anew? What should modern conservativsm have as its most important goal? Like the nibbling away at social values over decades the SP's accomplished, can that same strategy be employed in the reverse? All good questions, but I fear I'm at a loss as to how one might accomplish it, given our modern day divisionist society.


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    Exactly, hence the terminology "progressive"...... What exactly are they progressing to? I've asked die hard progressives that question several times and have never have got an answer.

    As a libertarian (and conservative) I can tell you what I'm trying to conserve and that is classical liberalism and the ideas that founded this land, however these alleged "liberals" er progressives cannot tell me their socioeconomic goal. "Progress" in my opinion seems to be a wandering fashion and a wandering political philosophy.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    As a libertarian (and conservative) I can tell you what I'm trying to conserve and that is classical liberalism and the ideas that founded this land, however these alleged "liberals" er progressives cannot tell me their socioeconomic goal. "Progress" in my opinion seems to be a wandering fashion and a wandering political philosophy.
    Libertarians are an odd placement for the founders of this country if you actually consider the first two administrations and a popular political Party until the 1810s. Big government, anti-democratic conservatives hold just as much to the foundation of this country.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    It's not the sexuality of children SP's are interested in, its their gullability. SP's understood many, many years ago that they could NOT in any way voice thier message at the forefront, instead they realized that change is slow to occur, and that SP's needed to be in positions that would most affect that change. Conservatives on the other hand only began noticing 10 - 15 years ago and stated fighting back. Are they too late? Maybe, look at the last election as an example of two generations, perhaps three that are too far gone. It does present a philosophical conundrumn for modern day conservatives on how to properly fight back within our system of government. Should they go back, or should they begin anew? What should modern conservativsm have as its most important goal? Like the nibbling away at social values over decades the SP's accomplished, can that same strategy be employed in the reverse? All good questions, but I fear I'm at a loss as to how one might accomplish it, given our modern day divisionist society.


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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Libertarians are an odd placement for the founders of this country if you actually consider the first two administrations and a popular political Party until the 1810s. Big government, anti-democratic conservatives hold just as much to the foundation of this country.
    Our founders were libertarian/classical liberals. I suppose there was some disagreement on the logistics of how to retain such ideas, however the premise of liberty was always at the forefront.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Our founders were libertarian/classical liberals. I suppose there was some disagreement on the logistics of how to retain such ideas, however the premise of liberty was always at the forefront.

    Yeah, not anymore....Liberty I feel is seen as a threat to progressive goals.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I think this is a prime example of political correctness gone wrong. Much like if a teacher played a song about being a Christian, and some kid got offended, the teacher would also be suspended.

    There comes a time when the sillyness has to stop from all sides and just accept that you will NEVER be 100% not offended by something.
    I certainly agree but we live in such a litigious society that I definitely see where the school is coming from too.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Libertarians are an odd placement for the founders of this country if you actually consider the first two administrations and a popular political Party until the 1810s. Big government, anti-democratic conservatives hold just as much to the foundation of this country.
    The concept of "big government" today is vastly different than during the Washington and Adams Administrations.

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