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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    You missed another thread about washington state passing a resolution to elminate the word bride or groom from marital forms so as not to offend gays or something...that was what that was about..and its not nonsensical to me..

    If you or anyone else wants to put your own spin on what I am and what I believe..im good with that..becaue it means not hing to me...I was around more gays in my life then you will ever be being straight...ive had very personal upfront situations with them for years...dont pull the im naive or im afraid because im naive garbage...because thats what it is...Im against gay marriage and I dont care if you or anyone else likes it or not...I dont hate gays...but I do hate non gay cheerleaders that I feel are mostly full of **** that like to label people and name call and discriminate against everyone else while crying foul over the smallest gay thing...gays are far less obnoxious then most of the phony gay supporters that go overboard with it to look PROGRESSIVe and open and lol whatever silly **** is for the day...they are laughable and many are purely full of ****
    I'm not sure what a phoney gay supporter is. Every radical extreme gay activist I've known is gay or bi.

    Is there a reason you care what is on Washington state's marriage form? Planning on divorcing and remarrying in Washington - and can't because it may not have a form you like?

    If I knew details about your marriage, I might be against it. Do you rage at her? Obviously, you believe what others think about your marriage really matters a lot - since you think what you feel about other's marriages should matter.

    I would think you would support Washington's law IF they legalize gay marriage. That way, a gay man can never be a "bride" on the form. Obviously you don't want gay men to officially be "brides." Would a form allowing each person to circle the term they prefer be acceptable to you?

    Why do you care? Seriously. What's in to you? What endangers you?
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    The song seems inappropriate. But what song isn't these day's, I guess. I don't think she needed to get suspended, but advised that the song was inappropriate to play in class.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The classroom isn't a teacher's personal platform to espousr her political beliefs. The objective is to teach kids how to think, not what to think. As long as they're on my nickel, anyway.
    Nor is it a good platform anyway (impressing 15 year olds wasn't my idea of political persuasion, anyhow). But it can illuminate how to think about politics, if done properly.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'm not sure what a phoney gay supporter is. Every radical extreme gay activist I've known is gay or bi.

    Is there a reason you care what is on Washington state's marriage form? Planning on divorcing and remarrying in Washington - and can't because it may not have a form you like?

    If I knew details about your marriage, I might be against it. Do you rage at her? Obviously, you believe what others think about your marriage really matters a lot - since you think what you feel about other's marriages should matter.

    I would think you would support Washington's law IF they legalize gay marriage. That way, a gay man can never be a "bride" on the form. Obviously you don't want gay men to officially be "brides." Would a form allowing each person to circle the term they prefer be acceptable to you?

    Why do you care? Seriously. What's in to you? What endangers you?

    know what you just want to rant on and on, you just want to talk and not read what I have to say..I answer everything in this post in my other...I said what I had to say now im done...I always respect the law if it becomes national law I wont lose any sleep and i will abide by the law..
    You dont have to like my not being for gay marriage..I respect that...respect my opinion in kind and dont label me and call me names...and I wont do the same to you in return...maybe you can figure that statement out and if you do that may answer ALL the questions you have redundantly asked

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    The song seems inappropriate. But what song isn't these day's, I guess. I don't think she needed to get suspended, but advised that the song was inappropriate to play in class.
    Was anyone aware of which method the instructor used to play the song? If it was a Youtube video, where it can get tricky is what images/film clips are included with the song. That would add another context to the song, and another layer of consideration. I know the consideration was based on the lyrics, but perhaps being the person I am, I am willing to believe that if visual representation were included, that might add to the contention.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Students have never been banned from saying their own prayers. Schools have been banned from teachers leading those prayers. Learn the difference.
    Point out ONE incident where a student was allowed to open communication with his maker IN the classroom, OUT loud, in front of teacher and classmates.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Was anyone aware of which method the instructor used to play the song? If it was a Youtube video, where it can get tricky is what images/film clips are included with the song. That would add another context to the song, and another layer of consideration. I know the consideration was based on the lyrics, but perhaps being the person I am, I am willing to believe that if visual representation were included, that might add to the contention.
    It said no video shown, just audio.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Point out ONE incident where a student was allowed to open communication with his maker IN the classroom, OUT loud, in front of teacher and classmates.
    You're just wrong. Why don't you let it go?

    The legal standard is that the school can not lead in prayer or religion. Schools are strictly prohibited from banning students from praying - and even lose federal funding unless they certify they will not ban children from engaging in prayer or other religious activities. The only restriction is they may not be done in a manner to disrupt class activities, just like anything else.

    Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    It was part of a conservative anti-Catholic campaign that began in the 1880s and extended into the 1920s. It included areas where there were virtually no Irish Catholics, including Wisconsin.

    Bennett Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    'Bigotry' has a bad reputation. Catholics are happy to be bigoted against homosexuals and atheists; I'm happy to be bigoted against Catholics. As for the rest, I identify culturally with White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism (High Church, not the evangelical swill). And I would have supported them in the 1920s against the Catholics who raided the patronage jobs and supported the corrupt machines.
    Sadly the bigotry against homosexuals runs quite wide in most Christian sects. Catholics are certainly not unique.

    That being said, I find Catholicism more useful instead of the democratic tendencies of other sects. I like hierarchy and order.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You're just wrong. Why don't you let it go?
    Once again, my point is, students are not allowed to pray OUT LOUD, IN the classroom, when the teacher & other students are assembled for class.

    Essentially it's, "Don't bring that trash in here".

    I am right, and now I will let it go.

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