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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Since the 1970's. Don't you know anything, oChild?
    Making up your own reality doesn't win arguments.

    Students have never been banned from saying their own prayers. Schools have been banned from teachers leading those prayers. Learn the difference.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And since when were they unable to do so? You seem to be confusing the ban of teacher lead prayer with students saying their own prayers. I suggest you stop getting your news from WND.
    Students are not allowed to pray aloud in classs or hold organized prayer sessions in public schools - are you saying they are? They are allowed SILENT prayer.

    As for the song, it politically biased, anti-religious and I don't think it's appropriate for the classroom. But hey, other than a music class why are they playing tunes in the classroom to begin with? Focus people, the schools are already having a tough time educating students in the basics, why waste time with this nonsense?

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Students are not allowed to pray aloud in classs or hold organized prayer sessions in public schools - are you saying they are? They are allowed SILENT prayer.
    As long as you aren't disrupting the class, you can say whatever you want. SCOTUS has never argued that kids are barred from saying prayers in the classroom. SCOTUS has banned authority lead prayers in the classroom. If ten kids want to say a prayer in the morning, they can do that if they are not disruptive. What the school cannot do is have the teacher or other authority lead that.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    As long as you aren't disrupting the class, you can say whatever you want. SCOTUS has never argued that kids are barred from saying prayers in the classroom. SCOTUS has banned authority lead prayers in the classroom. If ten kids want to say a prayer in the morning, they can do that if they are not disruptive. What the school cannot do is have the teacher or other authority lead that.
    Supreme Court bars student-led prayer at high school football games
    June 19, 2000

    The U.S. Supreme Court ruled Monday that prayer does not belong in public schools, even if students initiate and lead the prayers.

    The court ruled 6-3 in a Texas case that public schools cannot allow student-led prayer before high school football games, a decision that reinforces the wall between church and state erected by the First Amendment.

    The ruling came in Santa Fe Independent School District v. Jane Doe, a case involving the Sante Fe Independent School District in Galveston, Texas, which allowed student-initiated and student-led prayer to be broadcast over the public address system before high school football games.
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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Your a name calling little twerp...but thats all you have ever been on here since ive been here...you like to puff up on here like your an imaginery tough guy lol....now pay attention close atttention because after this I shall not participate in your name calling and labeling.
    I dont give one bit a **** what you or anyone else want to consider or call my stance on homosexuality...My beliefs will change when I believe I can see where I was wrong...not because a few chumps want to try and bogart me...lol...that never worked in real life.
    Im tired of the silly crap that goes on here with gays...you have gays that not only want everything...they demand it...then you have their flock of cheerleaders that come behind them and attempt to label and belittle and badger anyone that dares disagree with ANY any part of anything gay and make them out to be vile dirtbags....well go for it I COULDNT GIVE A **** LESS...about you them or any one else that wants to play that game.
    You want to believe I hate gays...GO FOR IT I dont care..as long as my daughter knows the truth thats the only thing important to me....want to label me a homophobe any gay or you that wants to step to me in real will find out how scared I am...roflmaooooool....want to call me a bigot..cool im good with that...I believe what I believe and not only dont I give a **** if you like it or not...you have no chance of every changing it...
    So take your self righteous Im always right and I know everything attitude and say gbye...cuz thats all your getting from me on this topic from here on out...now goodbye

    As much as I agree with the first half of your first sentence, otherwise I have to go with Hautery on this one.

    I'm not sure why you claim Hautery claims he came from monkeys - or what that has to do with this topic. It would appear the first half of your first sentence applies to both of you.

    Supporting equal rights for gays does not make a person "pro-gay," any more than a person who is "pro-choice" is "pro-abortion" - or "pro-life" means "pro-unwanted-pregnancies." I'm not "pro-socialism," but support the right of a person to be and vote for socialism.

    Then again, I am, in someways, very pro-LGTB personally - very much so in some ways - although I also am straight personally.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    As much as I agree with the first half of your first sentence, otherwise I have to go with Hautery on this one.

    I'm not sure why you claim Hautery claims he came from monkeys - or what that has to do with this topic. It would appear the first half of your first sentence applies to both of you.

    Supporting equal rights for gays does not make a person "pro-gay," any more than a person who is "pro-choice" is "pro-abortion" - or "pro-life" means "pro-unwanted-pregnancies." I'm not "pro-socialism," but support the right of a person to be and vote for socialism.

    Then again, I am, in someways, very pro-LGTB personally - very much so in some ways - although I also am straight personally.
    Same thing as his attack on my being catholic....I dont care what you are to be honest...im not against gays thats contrived by gays and their cheerleaders because im against any assault on marriage...like taking bride out of marriage...my wife is my bride and will be in voice and on paper till the day I take my last breath and a small group of people arent going to change that just to make themselves feel good..

    See what you missed was that Its ok to play gay songs but not religious songs...and hatuey doesnt like religion and hes made that plain in MANY MANY POSTS so if he doesnt believe in creation then he believes in evolution and we all came from monkeys...there was no RACIST intent in my statement it was purely religious in nature to respond to his snide comment that I was hiding behind catholicism..which I DO NOT i am not a very religious person and religion doesnt guide my life...
    Being gay is fine I have a gay daughter...forcing you will on me and degrading what I want so you can have whatever it is you want is not ok....if your going to sing songs on homosexuality and allow it...then you need to allow songs about jesus and anything else all the others are against and want banned...being gay isnt immunity from restrictions that are placed on others in the classroom....want to sing a gay song im fine with it as long as you let another student sing his favorite pro religion song...do you get my point joko ? I hope so I dont expect gays or their cheerleaders to get anything but whatever they want to make it out to be.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Same thing as his attack on my being catholic....I dont care what you are to be honest...im not against gays thats contrived by gays and their cheerleaders because im against any assault on marriage...like taking bride out of marriage...my wife is my bride and will be in voice and on paper till the day I take my last breath and a small group of people arent going to change that just to make themselves feel good..
    Nothing I wrote was in defense of Hautery's messages in general and your view of his bigotries justifies yours is nonsensical.

    Your message reeks of insecurities. And being naive in some regards. Generally, when gays married - with or without a license - they do use titles for each other like "husband," "wife," "bride," and "groom." You didn't know that?

    It isn't that you fear being unable to call your wife your bride. That's just foolish. Call her anything you want and can get away with - your wife, your bitch, your lady, your better half, your whatever. Instead, you want to stop others - specifically gays - from using those words too. Your raging about this all is what gives rise to the word "hate" seeming to attach to your views.

    Who gives a damn what the government calls your spouse? I guess you do. How much else of your marriage do you allow the government to dictate?

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The problem is that these days EVERYBODY is so easily offended. I imagine that if the offended student had used an anti-gay song to express his views the gay kid would have been offended. What we need in schools is a "You have no right to not be offended" class.
    I think there is some merit to the idea that we ought to instill young people with the notion that their beliefs ought to be challenged and that frequently you will come across ideas, materials, and so forth that are personally offensive to you or that you disagree with.

    Actually I think it is false to put the whole blame on Christians for this one. The public school system sort of caused this problem when they didn't allow Christian music to be played in school for fear it might offend the atheist parents or kids. This is just political correctness gone crazy.

    I blame the people that are continuing this nonsense of political correctness gone stupid.
    That being said (the Next), when someone uses the mantra of "political correctness" it really undermines the legitimate problems and complications surrounding which material ought to be in that danger zone, and why teachers ought to consider what they do carefully. Most teachers are quite respectful about these boundaries, as gray and foggy as they can be.

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Nothing I wrote was in defense of Hautery's messages in general and your view of his bigotries justifies yours is nonsensical.

    Your message reeks of insecurities. And being naive in some regards. Generally, when gays married - with or without a license - they do use titles for each other like "husband," "wife," "bride," and "groom." You didn't know that?

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    It isn't that you fear being unable to call your wife your bride. That's just foolish. Call her anything you want and can get away with - your wife, your bitch, your lady, your better half, your whatever. Instead, you want to stop others - specifically gays - from using those words too. Your raging about this all is what gives rise to the word "hate" seeming to attach to your views.

    Who gives a damn what the government calls your spouse? I guess you do. How much else of your marriage do you allow the government to dictate?

    You missed another thread about washington state passing a resolution to elminate the word bride or groom from marital forms so as not to offend gays or something...that was what that was about..and its not nonsensical to me..

    If you or anyone else wants to put your own spin on what I am and what I believe..im good with that..becaue it means not hing to me...I was around more gays in my life then you will ever be being straight...ive had very personal upfront situations with them for years...dont pull the im naive or im afraid because im naive garbage...because thats what it is...Im against gay marriage and I dont care if you or anyone else likes it or not...I dont hate gays...but I do hate non gay cheerleaders that I feel are mostly full of **** that like to label people and name call and discriminate against everyone else while crying foul over the smallest gay thing...gays are far less obnoxious then most of the phony gay supporters that go overboard with it to look PROGRESSIVe and open and lol whatever silly **** is for the day...they are laughable and many are purely full of ****

    Know how I view the very vehement non homosexual cheerleaders on here...I view them like the race baiters that live in an ALL WHITE neighborhood went to all white schools never been around more than two blacks at once in their life...telling a guy like me im a racist and I grew up on a project with 20% white kids and had a black woman adopt me and protect me as her own when my father was working...its the same type of full of **** people

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    Re: Teacher suspended for playing song about being gay

    On the forum I call her my "wife" and also do so in some social settings when appropriate. However, to her I've never called her that. "My little girl," "my girl," "my gal," ---- and some pet names like "kitten" or "kitty" (because she's wore panties that say "Kitty" on it), and metaphysical like "little angel" and "little pixie" ---

    - - - but mostly I just call her by her name. I cannot recall every using the word "bride" to or about her. No particular reason, just never used it. But it sounds like you want to kill over that word.

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