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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    No. And I think they ought to be, together with orientation therapy and other harmful quackeries.
    So, government condemnation of anything that you don't agree with? That's awesome!
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, government condemnation of anything that you don't agree with? That's awesome!
    Government condemnation of anything that purports to be a medical science that does not meet the Hippocratic oath - "first do no harm". Neither regression therapy nor orientation therapy (nor any other number of psychoanalytically-derived programmes - Scientology's Dianetics, orgone therapy, etc.) meet that standard. All are worthy of condemnation.

    If a therapeutic regiment does not have verifiable benefits, and can be shown to be actively harmful to a significant number of patients, it is not medicinal. And it should not be allowed to masquerade as medicene.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, government condemnation of anything that you don't agree with? That's awesome!
    Look up HRES1715 or HR600 and you'll see how much credence these resolutions really have. You are making a mountain out of a salt flat.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Government condemnation of anything that purports to be a medical science that does not meet the Hippocratic oath - "first do no harm". Neither regression therapy nor orientation therapy (nor any other number of psychoanalytically-derived programmes - Scientology's Dianetics, orgone therapy, etc.) meet that standard. All are worthy of condemnation.

    If a therapeutic regiment does not have verifiable benefits, and can be shown to be actively harmful to a significant number of patients, it is not medicinal. And it should not be allowed to masquerade as medicene.
    Why aren't they receiving the same condemnation as sexual orientation therapy?
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why aren't they receiving the same condemnation as sexual orientation therapy?
    I don't know, but they should, particularly regression therapy for its role in the fundamentalist-driven witch hunts of the 1980s. I'd be fine with a resolution issuing a blanket condemnation of Freudian-inspired theories which have been used for purposes of social control.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I don't know, but they should, particularly regression therapy for its role in the fundamentalist-driven witch hunts of the 1980s. I'd be fine with a resolution issuing a blanket condemnation of Freudian-inspired theories which have been used for purposes of social control.
    That said, Scientology's practices probably won't ever be subject to a Federal condemnation, as they are protected under the First Amendment despite the fact that they were marketed as a self-help programme originally in the 1950s and that they owe far more to Freud and Wilhelm Reich than to any religious teaching.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Literally denying them the right? No. Issueing a government endorsed condemnation of that right? Yes, indeed.

    There isn't a dime's worth of difference in my book.
    Parents don't have the right to harm their children.

    That's what these therapies do.

    End of story.

    You don't actually understand how rights work.

    Which is evident when you said a boycott was the same as silencing free speech.

    And how the USO cancelling a show with Ted Nugent was also the same as silencing free speech.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Parents don't have the right to harm their children.

    That's what these therapies do.

    End of story.
    Your evidence?

    You don't actually understand how rights work.

    Which is evident when you said a boycott was the same as silencing free speech.

    And how the USO cancelling a show with Ted Nugent was also the same as silencing free speech.
    I'm not from Canada...I know exactly how rights work.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, screw free speech. Right?

    This is no different than a resolution denouncing gays for making their sexuality public.
    This doesn't have a thing to do with free speech. You may not agree with the message, but this is nothing more than a statement. There have been other stories recently where legislatures did more than make statements, but that is is not the case here.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by RepublicanMcDuc View Post
    This doesn't have a thing to do with free speech. You may not agree with the message, but this is nothing more than a statement. There have been other stories recently where legislatures did more than make statements, but that is is not the case here.
    The message is coming from the government; that's what I disagree with.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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