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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    Some forms of therapy, if they aren't illegal, ought to be. This includes e.g. so-called 'regression therapy' that lead to the Satanic panic of the 1980s and 1990s and dozens of false convictions. Pseudoscience ought not be protected by law.
    You could kiss global warming research good buy, if that were the case.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    Care to show us where congress has passed similar resolutions?

    Also, show us how this therapy has been proven to be ineffective, failed and harmful.
    Why are you moving the goalposts? You claimed rights where being infringed, can you show where that has happened?
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why are you moving the goalposts? You claimed rights where being infringed, can you show where that has happened?
    I'm not moving anything. I'm asking you to provide supporting evidence for the statements of fact that you've made.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You could kiss global warming research good buy, if that were the case.
    Err, no. Global warming research, whether global warming is a real phenomenon or not, isn't medical research; it doesn't have the potential to immediately effect someone's physical wellbeing in the way that medical therapy does.

    Regression therapy, for example, which is based on largely discredited psychoanalytic theories about the operations of the unconscious mind, is therapeutic, and ought to be subject to Federal prohibition (there still being a role for government involvement with medicene under any legitimate system of government). The same goes with "sexual orientation therapy" quackery.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    Err, no. Global warming research, whether global warming is a real phenomenon or not, isn't medical research; it doesn't have the potential to immediately effect someone's physical wellbeing in the way that medical therapy does.

    Regression therapy, for example, which is based on largely discredited psychoanalytic theories about the operations of the unconscious mind, is therapeutic, and ought to be subject to Federal prohibition (there still being a role for government involvement with medicene under any legitimate system of government). The same goes with "sexual orientation therapy" quackery.
    If the government regulated metal therapy--which isn't "medicine"--psychiatry and psychology wouldn't exist. Hell, we would still be lobotomizing people.

    What's next? Witch hunts?
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    If the government regulated metal therapy--which isn't "medicine"--psychiatry and psychology wouldn't exist. Hell, we would still be lobotomizing people.

    What's next? Witch hunts?
    Psychiatry is a significantly more valid discipline than psychology, to the point that psychologists aren't authorized to dispense medication without holding a degree in psychiatry. A lot of psychology probably shouldn't exist.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    Psychiatry is a significantly more valid discipline than psychology, to the point that psychologists aren't authorized to dispense medication without holding a degree in psychiatry.
    Maybe we should outlaw marriage counselers and hypnotists, too?
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    Maybe we should outlaw marriage counselers and hypnotists, too?
    There's no need. They're both already regulated.

    And well so, at least in the case of hypnotists. Consider the existence of false memory syndrome, which lead to the convictions of dozens of innocents in the late 1980s and early 1990s as Satanic pedophilic racists. These notions were implanted in their minds by hypnotists.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

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    There's no need. They're both already regulated.

    And well so, at least in the case of hypnotists. Consider the existence of false memory system, which lead to the convictions of dozens of innocents in the late 1980s and early 1990s as Satanic pedophilic racists. These notions were implanted in their minds by hypnotists.
    But not denounced by congressional decree? Yes?
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But not denounced by congressional decree? Yes?
    No. And I think they ought to be, together with orientation therapy and other harmful quackeries.
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