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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Even if this is an "assault on your rights" (it isn't), how about the therapy's assault on the rights of kids not to be subjected to what is essentially dangerous brainwashing that is scientifically unsound? These kids are being subjected to mental and emotional torture based on the lies of people who want to strip them of their identities and force them to submit to their religious ideals, regardless of those of the kids.

    No matter what rights you think are being infringed on here, far more rights are attacked by not doing this.
    It's an assault on free speech, parental rights and the rights of persons who would voluntarily seek out such treatment.

    No different than banning gay marriage, in my opinion.

    Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that you have the authority to make it illegal, or issue a congressional denouncement of such practices.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yeah, screw free speech. Right?

    This is no different than a resolution denouncing gays for making their sexuality public.
    The government is not in this case denying any one the right to say anything. Nice try, but fail.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I dont see this as an assault...I think its aimed at protecting gays from people with an agenda...brainwashing and forcing them into something they may not want.
    If your gay or you think you are and you want to change...you need to do that yourself...no one can do that for you
    It's aimed at shutting down an opposing opinion.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another outright assault on our rights.
    You are correct.... matters of fraud are really more of the domain of state AG's or the FTC than congress.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You don't have the right to practice false medicine especially when it harms the patient.
    This isn't, "practicing medicine". It's therapy. Is voo-doo illegal? It's not; is it?
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The government is not in this case denying any one the right to say anything. Nice try, but fail.
    Literally denying them the right? No. Issueing a government endorsed condemnation of that right? Yes, indeed.

    There isn't a dime's worth of difference in my book.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    You are correct.... matters of fraud are really more of the domain of state AG's or the FTC than congress.
    If that were true, Al Gore would have been in prison years ago, along with the warmers and carbon credit peddlers.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This isn't, "practicing medicine". It's therapy. Is voo-doo illegal? It's not; is it?
    Some forms of therapy, if they aren't illegal, ought to be. This includes e.g. so-called 'regression therapy' that lead to the Satanic panic of the 1980s and 1990s and dozens of false convictions. Pseudoscience ought not be protected by law.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Literally denying them the right? No. Issueing a government endorsed condemnation of that right? Yes, indeed.

    There isn't a dime's worth of difference in my book.
    It is not doing that either. All it is doing is calling on congress to denounce a proven ineffective, failed, harmful treatment. No one's rights are being trampled on.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is not doing that either. All it is doing is calling on congress to denounce a proven ineffective, failed, harmful treatment. No one's rights are being trampled on.
    Care to show us where congress has passed similar resolutions?

    Also, show us how this therapy has been proven to be ineffective, failed and harmful.
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