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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    "Sexual-orientation therapy" is quackery on a par with seltzer tonic.
    It's worse. Seltzer tonic never directly hurt anyone. This "therapy" does.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    There is no assault on rights concerning this issue. What a shock, certain conservatives are playing the victim.
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another outright assault on our rights.

    I dont see this as an assault...I think its aimed at protecting gays from people with an agenda...brainwashing and forcing them into something they may not want.
    If your gay or you think you are and you want to change...you need to do that yourself...no one can do that for you

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another outright assault on our rights.
    You don't have the right to practice false medicine especially when it harms the patient.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    All I can think is this:

    It might be a negative to decide for someone ELSE that they need to be in it (like a parent with a minor making the choice)

    But some people don't WANT to be gay - ergo - if it helps them somehow (I can't imagine being in the situation at all) but if they need it / want it / find benefit in it then they should be able to choose to go.

    It's choice.

    I believe that people should be encouraged to accept what they are - but people get therapy and surgery to correct what hey don't like if it's that big of an issue to them.

    I don't see the benefit in banning it - I just see a benefit in restricting whether or not parents can force their children to go (etc)
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Another outright assault on our rights.
    i did not know one had a right to mentally and physically abuse their children.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    All I can think is this:

    It might be a negative to decide for someone ELSE that they need to be in it (like a parent with a minor making the choice)
    which seems to be what the bill actually does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    But some people don't WANT to be gay - ergo - if it helps them somehow (I can't imagine being in the situation at all) but if they need it / want it / find benefit in it then they should be able to choose to go.
    Once they are of age of consent they can participate in any quackery and BS they chose. However, before then we do protect children. They do not have full rights, and they are not in control of themselves. Oh, and it doesn't help anyone. that has been proven time and time again. All it is would be abusing a person until they give up and pretend to be straight. That is not medicine that is attempted brain washing and torture. If i kept punchinmg you in the face until you agreed with me eventually you would learn to agree with me. that doesn't make me right, or mean you really believe what you say.

    There is no cure for the gay.
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    It's choice.
    yes, consenting adults have a choice to go for the abuse. No one is stopping that.
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    I believe that people should be encouraged to accept what they are - but people get therapy and surgery to correct what hey don't like if it's that big of an issue to them.

    I don't see the benefit in banning it - I just see a benefit in restricting whether or not parents can force their children to go (etc)
    Well, that is what they are doing. However, we also do ban certain treatments for babysitter reasons. if i cannot take cocaine to get rid of my headache because the religious right likes to babysit then perhaps they should not be able to use a treatment that has been shown to drastically increase suicide, psychosis, and cause damage to the person with no actual proof it ever worked at all. At least cocaine takes away pain and works in that manner. Pray and abuse away the gay doesn't work. However, if we want to treat adults like adults and allow them to make their own choices in regards to themselves (which means ending the drug war, fight against gay marriage, religious BS, and letting people be themselves) then I don't see any problem with those programs being offered. until then I am all for banning this pointless and dangerous treatment. If we are going to have the babysitter then perhaps we should all get to babysit.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Thanks - that clears it up, then
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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    It's a sense of the congress resolution, there is nothing they are not allowed to say. I agree that these therapies are pseudoscienitifc claptrap, but I wonder if this Congresswoman might not have more important work that she should be focusing her efforts on.

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    Re: Congress implored to denounce sexual-orientation therapy

    Quote Originally Posted by RepublicanMcDuc View Post
    So wait, she's proposing a resolution that calls out this nonsense for what it is? Sorry, but that isn't an assault on your rights in any way, shape, or form. It's a statement.
    Yeah, screw free speech. Right?

    This is no different than a resolution denouncing gays for making their sexuality public.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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