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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Why not? Either a person will, or will not, make a good soldier. Just because someone can do a lot of pushups, does not a soldier make. ****, dude, I can do 70 pushups in one round somewhat easily, does NOT make me a good person to have your back in a combat situation.
    So what if I think only women with big tits make good soldiers because I'm a sexist predator?
    What if Sgt Big Black Guy thinks that only big black guys make good soldiers?
    What if Sgt Closet Nazi thinks that only white guys with blue eyes and fair skin make good soliders?
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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Sure. Why not? Let (RE nearly all white) females be killed for no better reason than our ( mostly white ) males are being killed.

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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Its not sexism. I don't have an issue with women. I have an issue with their ability.
    Okay, how do you not see the irony in this statement?

    I didn't have an issue with DADT being repealed because being gay doesn't effect one's ability to perform one's duties as required by MOS. Women are proved to be weaker. What you are proposing is that women should be double screened to go into combat MOS's while males would not be. That isn't fair either and will be an issue brought up by the "fair mongers". Therefore, my chain reaction I presented will go into effect.
    No, I never proposed anyone be double screened. Actually I think the military should screen everyone equally and leave gender out of it. I suppose statistically you will end up with more males, but I'm sure you'd end up with some females too. Banning women altogether is an overreaction.

    The irrational folks who think women should be given special treatment can cry all they want.


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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    There has to be a standard bro. You know that. You've served. If we want fairness, there should be a TRUE standard. Not a standard based on sex. I see what you're saying though. That maybe the standard is skewed based on the ability of males because males came up with it. However, I can't think of any physical events that women would be better at than men or are even with men on that could be included in a physical fitness test. The only way to go would be to lower standards, which I think we could both agree is bad business
    Yes, I did serve and found much of it not all that needed and knew folks who failed various aspects. And was told the military was large best suited for smaller men, and larger overly muscled men. In any case, I did call for no standards.

    As for better than men, I think I recall they naturally shoot better than men. But I'd have to look that up. The question is what if those are not the need criteria for the world today?

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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I did serve and found much of it not all that needed and knew folks who failed various aspects. And was told the military was large best suited for smaller men, and larger overly muscled men. In any case, I did call for no standards.

    As for better than men, I think I recall they naturally shoot better than men. But I'd have to look that up. The question is what if those are not the need criteria for the world today?
    I wouldn't say they "naturally" shoot better... It's more of a learned thing. Women tend not to be less likely to have shot a weapon before so when they get taught, they learn the correct way from the start, while men often have some unlearning to do before they learn the correct way. And therefore women generally do score better on the range than their men counterparts.
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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I wouldn't say they "naturally" shoot better... It's more of a learned thing. Women tend not to be less likely to have shot a weapon before so when they get taught, they learn the correct way from the start, while men often have some unlearning to do before they learn the correct way. And therefore women generally do score better on the range than their men counterparts.
    What I meant by natrual was their bodies provided a better natural base. Better balance on the whole.

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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What I meant by natrual was their bodies provided a better natural base. Better balance on the whole.
    I haven't heard that.
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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I haven't heard that.
    It was a longtime ago, when I first entered. Sargent Boatwright made a big deal of the study back then. 1978 I think.

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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    for those of you who have never been in the military, you do not have your normal natural rights under the constitution while you serve.

    when you sign the paper to join our military, you give up your rights, and you accept, the uniform code of military justice... UCMJ, for your rights.

    there is no free speech, secure in your person, as well as the others, you do as your told, when told to jump, you ask " how high"

    so you dont have rights to fight in combat.

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    Re: Aclu sues over policy barring women from combat

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    So what if I think only women with big tits make good soldiers because I'm a sexist predator?
    What if Sgt Big Black Guy thinks that only big black guys make good soldiers?
    What if Sgt Closet Nazi thinks that only white guys with blue eyes and fair skin make good soliders?
    In all of those cases, it wouldn't take long for those people to get fired.


    All I'm saying is, I think a drill sergeant is a better judge on who can do what than a bureaucrat.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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