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    Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No websites should be shutdown. The Germans have never changed - they're still fascists, just in a different sense.

    China, Russia and Iran highly censor their "internet." They're on totally different servers. The average internet user in the US doesn't have access to their servers. At one point there was an access point via google but that no longer exists, however it is against the law in China, Russia, Iran etc for their citizens to tap into our servers and be exposed to what we're exposed to everyday online.
    I can't speak for China and Iran but as far as Russia goes, this statement is simply not true. I have spent a lot of time in St. Petersburg over the past three years and I can tell you first hand that access is not limited. I never had any difficulty viewing any news site, facebook, message board, e-mail, etc... In fact, I actually thought things were "loser" there than they are here. I could actually watch live NFL games for FREE!

    Pretty cool, if you ask me.
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    Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

    Maybe he meant North Korea.
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    Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    I can't speak for China and Iran but as far as Russia goes, this statement is simply not true. I have spent a lot of time in St. Petersburg over the past three years and I can tell you first hand that access is not limited. I never had any difficulty viewing any news site, facebook, message board, e-mail, etc... In fact, I actually thought things were "loser" there than they are here. I could actually watch live NFL games for FREE!

    Pretty cool, if you ask me.
    I agree about Russia... Russia is certainly becoming a capitalist and liberal nation, however the nation is still authoritarian or strict.

    I find the Russian transition extremely interesting.

    Yes in Russia you're allowed outside access to the internet but it is not promoted... I suppose the best way to explain what I'm trying to say is that Russians keep to themselves....

    On the weird flip side of the coin the Chinese absolutely love the Russians. I was able to get into a Chinese message board one time and it was completely bizarre. Absolutely everyone was in agreement. They didn't say much of anything... I cracked the server when Russia invaded Georgia back in 2007 and all they said was "congratulations comrades" - they had emotions about that but in other topics they would post odd things like "today I ate rice - rice is good" yeah, that is pretty much the typical post on a Chinese board.

    The Chinese also have "internet police" if you say the wrong thing they post this picture.



    That would be comparable to a mod warning here on any message board.. The only difference is that instead of being banned you can be arrested for speaking your opinions on issues.
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    Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Maybe he meant North Korea.
    They really don't have internet in North Korea... The elitists do but other than that - no go.

    I wouldn't call what North Korea has as "internet" it is more like a segregated network.

    I want to get into their servers....

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    Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    They really don't have internet in North Korea... The elitists do but other than that - no go.

    I wouldn't call what North Korea has as "internet" it is more like a segregated network.

    I want to get into their servers....
    Agreed to who has the internet, but I am sure what little bit they do have, is heavily monitored.
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    Re: U.N. to Seek Control of the Internet

    When people denounce the UN as a collection of tinhorn, crackpot, and socialist dictators that violate America's sovereignty they forget that the US is the most powerful member of the UN, and we gain far more influence from being part of the UN than the UN influences us. The ITU doesn't want to regulate the Internet, and the US or Europe, both of whom are very much opposed to the UN running things, could easily block any takeover if that's what the ITU wanted.
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