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    Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Baby boxes are a revival of the medieval "foundling wheels," where unwanted infants were left in revolving church doors. In recent years, there has been an increase in these contraptions — also called hatches, windows or slots in some countries — and at least 11 European nations now have them, according to United Nations figures. They are technically illegal, but mostly operate in a gray zone as authorities turn a blind eye.

    But they have drawn the attention of human rights advocates who think they are bad for the children and merely avoid dealing with the problems that lead to child abandonment. At a meeting last month, the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child said baby boxes should be banned and is pushing that agenda to the European Parliament.
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    As usual, the United Nations doesn't understand the concept of how human rights work and is going to do more harm than good. I sincerely hope that the European Parliament does the right thing here and tells them to butt out of this.
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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Jonathan Swift made some pretty compelling arguments on the matter.
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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Hello everyone!

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Europe mulls banning 'boxes' for abandoned babies - Yahoo! News

    As usual, the United Nations doesn't understand the concept of how human rights work and is going to do more harm than good. I sincerely hope that the European Parliament does the right thing here and tells them to butt out of this.
    I find it amazing that they estimate that 1 to 2 children are left at each location each year, yet they do not have exact figures. But based on this lack of data Hungarian child psychologist on the U.N. committee, Maria Herczog says, ""We have data to show that in some cases it's pimps, a male relative or someone who's exploiting the woman." They can collect data behind the reasons the boxes are being used, but do not have exact figures as to how often the boxes are being used? How are they collecting this data she speaks of if the mother and/or others using the box are remaining anonymous?

    If a mother and/or others feel that the children must be left this way, and they are being adopted out of the hospital (as Jan was in the article) I do not see what the problem is?

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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
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    As usual, the United Nations doesn't understand the concept of how human rights work and is going to do more harm than good. I sincerely hope that the European Parliament does the right thing here and tells them to butt out of this.
    I don't see why a mother should be encouraged to abandon her children without answering for her decision.

    I know, in a round about way, it's to discourage trying to actually commit infanticide - but still.
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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Quote Originally Posted by Plebeian View Post
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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    Europe mulls banning 'boxes' for abandoned babies - Yahoo! News

    As usual, the United Nations doesn't understand the concept of how human rights work and is going to do more harm than good. I sincerely hope that the European Parliament does the right thing here and tells them to butt out of this.
    Perhaps they would prefer dumpsters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Perhaps they would prefer dumpsters?
    Giuliani already took care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Giuliani already took care of it.

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    Bahahahaha. I actually got half way through the article, getting rather pissed off, until my wife pointed out that it was the onion. I normally pick up on details like that much faster, but to be honest, that does sound like something Giuliani or Bloomberg would do.
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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Bahahahaha. I actually got half way through the article, getting rather pissed off, until my wife pointed out that it was the onion. I normally pick up on details like that much faster, but to be honest, that does sound like something Giuliani or Bloomberg would do.
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    Re: Europe Mulls Banning "Boxes" for Abandoned Babies

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't see why a mother should be encouraged to abandon her children without answering for her decision.
    I don't think she should have to answer for her decision at all-- it's her prerogative, just as it is the prerogative of her husband (should she have one) not to accept a child she offers him. This is merely a more humane and less wasteful alternative to leaving such babies out for the wolves.

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