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Walmart workers demand better wages

Point taken Maggie - they do have tons of willing customers. That is very true. But they also have a large group who loathes them and will go to lengths NOT to patronize them.

So is there any other major company in America where the population is so divided about other than Wal Mart?

Tell me why that is, Haymarket. Why have those few people put WalMart in their sights? I suppose you would answer, "They import all their junk from foreign countries." True. So does every other retailer in the United States. Or, you might answer, "They treat their employees like ****." Well, if that's true? So does every other major retailer in the United States. Or, you might answer, "They move into a town and mom-and-pop stores go out of business." The same thing happened with Pamida came to town (in Wisconsin), when Kohl's came to town, when Sears came to town.

So riddle me, Haymarket: Why WalMart? You and I both know the answer to that question.
 
I think it's because I see it not being "the people" who are asking for better working conditions. I see it as "the union" pushing from the top down...instead of the workers pulling from the bottom up.

Websites paid for by unions are continually reporting mis-information . . . tried to disrupt the company's business this last weekend . . . conducting a huge media blitz against WalMart . . . busing in what I must assume are "bought-and-paid-for demonstrators" . . . why? Because they are salivating at the thought of 1.5 million unionized WalMart workers paying $20-$25 a month in union dues. They have no altruistic intent. As usual? It's all about the money.

Nonsense, these are WILDCAT STRIKES ... meaning no union involved.

Also no union makes their money through low wage workers dues ...
 
No it doesn't ... Anytime the employer takes more money that he didn't work for, he's stealing from the worker ... So basically, as long as walmart is profitable, barely, or even just cutting even, the workers arn't stealing a thing.

If you buy a car and the car isn't perfect, you havn't been robbed.

You've nailed your lean, RGacky.
 
Isn't it assumed that if the pay and work at Walmart was not adequate, that people would not take the jobs for that pay. If people didn't take jobs for that pay, Walmart would have to increase their pay level and maybe benefits until it attracted employees so the company can continue operations. No one forces them to work at Walmart. People took the job and the pay at what the market is dictating.

Isn't this the conversation every Thanksgiving and Christmas with Walmart?
 
You have absolutely nothing to base this on, but you "must assume" all of it anyway.

Get a job at WalMart. Then tell me how peachy you think they have it. You've concocted this whole conspiracy theory from... what, exactly? What actual evidence do you have to support any of this?

Lets face reality, shall we? most walmart employees are not high skilled and are performing pretty easy jobs. Those who demonstrate hard work, incentive, and abilities will be promoted to management and higher pay, those who do not will remain at basic wages.

As with everything in life, supply and demand should set the price of labor, more skills and abilities warrant higher pay.
 
Nonsense, these are WILDCAT STRIKES ... meaning no union involved.

Also no union makes their money through low wage workers dues ...

What planet are you from? Be honest.
 
I think it's because I see it not being "the people" who are asking for better working conditions. I see it as "the union" pushing from the top down...instead of the workers pulling from the bottom up.

Websites paid for by unions are continually reporting mis-information . . . tried to disrupt the company's business this last weekend . . . conducting a huge media blitz against WalMart . . . busing in what I must assume are "bought-and-paid-for demonstrators" . . . why? Because they are salivating at the thought of 1.5 million unionized WalMart workers paying $20-$25 a month in union dues. They have no altruistic intent. As usual? It's all about the money.
many a walmart worker wants better conditions, better pay and benefits, and the events of this last weekend were led by those who work at these stores, these protests were not just unions 'busing' people in to protest, actual employees were involved...it pains me to see so many people here on dp so poorly informed about what happened.
 
What planet are you from? Be honest.

Do you know what a wildcat strike is?

Also unions are non profits ... and democratic, also low wage workers doen't pay that much more in dues than the cost.

Also The organization doing this, Our Walmart, is not a union.

I'm from the nailing leans planet.
 
And wages go up overall when workers organize.

Yes, and the employer has no option but to raise prices to account for the higher labor cost---then he loses sales, and has to lay off workers----so who wins?

Have you followed what the unions did to Hostess?
 
Yes, and the employer has no option but to raise prices to account for the higher labor cost---then he loses sales, and has to lay off workers----so who wins?

Have you followed what the unions did to Hostess?
have you? piss poor management is what did hostess in.
 
Yes, and the employer has no option but to raise prices to account for the higher labor cost---then he loses sales, and has to lay off workers----so who wins?

Have you followed what the unions did to Hostess?

No he doesn't, he can cut into profits or executive pay ... short term, because if more companies unionize and get higher wages aggrigate demand goes up, meaning so does revenue ..

This is why heavily unionized european countries have higher living standards.

I've debunked the inflation argument over and over and over again, should I just repost the debunking?
 
Do you know what a wildcat strike is?

Also unions are non profits ... and democratic, also low wage workers doen't pay that much more in dues than the cost.

Also The organization doing this, Our Walmart, is not a union.

I'm from the nailing leans planet.

LOL, you obviously know nothing about unions. NON profit???? BS. Who do you think pays the union bosses? The union's profits go into the bosses pockets.
 
many a walmart worker wants better conditions, better pay and benefits, and the events of this last weekend were led by those who work at these stores, these protests were not just unions 'busing' people in to protest, actual employees were involved...it pains me to see so many so poorly informed.

It's pretty much all over the internet. Just Google:

Other demonstrations were smaller and less disruptive. At a Walmart on Chicago's South side, just one employee from the store's nearly 500 staff took part in the demonstration, according to Walmart. There, four busloads of protesters marched outside and were not stopped by police or security guards.

OUR Walmart, an organization backed by the United Food & Commercial Workers (UFCW) union, said it counted 1,000 protests in 46 U.S. states, including strikes in 100 cities - figures that Walmart said were "grossly exaggerated."

How would the UFCW even know this unless they had organized it? At least be honest, Randel.

Nine arrests in Walmart protest, business still brisk - Yahoo! Finance
 
LOL, you obviously know nothing about unions. NON profit???? BS. Who do you think pays the union bosses? The union's profits go into the bosses pockets.

Legally non profit ... also I don't see that many Union bosses in the fortune 500, also union leadership compensation is DEMOCRATICALLY CHOSEN.
 
"The free market did it, therefore it's good."

Have you accounted for the massive subsidies WalMart is receiving from the taxpayers?
Government should not be subsidizing business.
 
No he doesn't, he can cut into profits or executive pay ... short term, because if more companies unionize and get higher wages aggrigate demand goes up, meaning so does revenue ..

This is why heavily unionized european countries have higher living standards.

I've debunked the inflation argument over and over and over again, should I just repost the debunking?

Why should a business cut its profit rate? Does an employer have a duty to pay his employees whatever they demand? Why do you think there is no longer a textile industry in the USA? Unions, my friend, unions destroyed thousands of american jobs. Why do you think GE and GM are building their products in China and Mexico? Unions.
 
Legally non profit ... also I don't see that many Union bosses in the fortune 500, also union leadership compensation is DEMOCRATICALLY CHOSEN.

Yeah, right, and Jimmy Hoffa is alive and living in Costa Rica.
 
have you? piss poor management is what did hostess in.

Wrong, union wage demands put them out of business. Please stop the lies, it makes you look foolish.
 
Do you know what a wildcat strike is?

Also unions are non profits ... and democratic, also low wage workers doen't pay that much more in dues than the cost.

Also The organization doing this, Our Walmart, is not a union.

I'm from the nailing leans planet.

Well, let's see . . . when I entered ourwalmart.com into my address bar . . . here's what came up:

OURWalmart.org is no longer in service.

The union-backed organization which sponsored this domain is not affiliated with Walmart or Sam's Club and does not represent the company nor its associates.

For factual information about Walmart, including its outstanding career opportunities, visit Walmart Corporate - We save people money so they can live better.

En Español

And, in case there's further questions about OURWalmart:

"It's a question of education," said Josue Mata, a maintenance worker at Walmart in Wheatland, Texas, and a member of OUR Walmart, the labor group that is coordinating the strikes. "We have to show people that we're not just a crazy bunch of protesters."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/22/walmart-strike-dallas_n_2175697.html
 
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Why should a business cut its profit rate? Does an employer have a duty to pay his employees whatever they demand? Why do you think there is no longer a textile industry in the USA? Unions, my friend, unions destroyed thousands of american jobs. Why do you think GE and GM are building their products in China and Mexico? Unions.

Because they have too ...

An employer has no duty to do anything, neither do employees.

The reason there is no longer a textile industry in the US or all of those things is because of the LOSS of unions, outsroucing happened majorly in the 80s and 90s, when Unions were being destroyed, because unions previously were making sure that outsourcing didn't happen.

You're speaking out of total ignorance.
 
i never said that many of my union brothers and sisters didnt protest with the walmart workers, i debunked your claims that it was just all 'outside' people, with no walmart workers...

Oh, Christ. There we have it: "My union brothers and sisters..." :rofl
 
Wrong, union wage demands put them out of business. Please stop the lies, it makes you look foolish.
i have, and you are very poorly informed...perhaps if YOU actually did some research, and not depend on the right wing talking points that are fed to you daily, perhaps you would realize this.
 
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