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Walmart workers demand better wages

American said:
Yeah, but she should stand by her principles.
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Principles? Perhaps you misunderstand the situation. Many a folk work for poorly managed companies, and doing so has nothing to do with principles. Why is the concept of giving the worker some. Ice in the company, especially a large company like Walmart, some voice so hard to accept?
 
Boo Radley said:
Principles? Perhaps you misunderstand the situation. Many a folk work for poorly managed companies, and doing so has nothing to do with principles. Why is the concept of giving the worker some. Ice in the company, especially a large company like Walmart, some voice so hard to accept?
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There is a hard limit Walmart could actually raise their pay collectively to.
If they were able to cut all dividends, they could possibly give everyone a raise of $3-4 an hour.
That's the high end, in a scenario that wouldn't exist.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
There is a hard limit Walmart could actually raise their pay collectively to.
If they were able to cut all dividends, they could possibly give everyone a raise of $3-4 an hour.
That's the high end, in a scenario that wouldn't exist.
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Not sure that is completely true. Walmart is doing well enough it should be able to find a way to more employee friendly. But I'm open to information.
 
RLN said:
I can't help but thinking how much that reminds me of reading a cake recipe. How easy.:roll: :lol:
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It's not easy, and it's not supposed to be. Getting educated and increasing your income and net worth is hard work. It's not for the lazy for sure. And the lazy shouldn't complain about making $10.50/hour.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I was making $10.50, which is around what average Walmart employees make.
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God Bless you Sir. I hope that someone left you some money or your wife had a good job. all I know is that it would be hard to do without some help inside your family or an inheritance.:shrug:
 
Boo Radley said:
Not sure that is completely true. Walmart is doing well enough it should be able to find a way to more employee friendly. But I'm open to information.
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Well, that's my crappy, back of the envelope math, but you take their profit and divide it by their employees.
That doesn't account for any additional health care or increases in part time to full time hours, if all conditions were met.

Basically, they couldn't afford to give in to everything these guys want.
The money isn't there, without raising prices.
 
The Man said:
It's not easy, and it's not supposed to be. Getting educated and increasing your income and net worth is hard work. It's not for the lazy for sure.
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Oh yes. Hard work. At $8.00-$10.00 an hour without outside help it sure would be.:shrug:
 
RLN said:
Oh yes. Hard work. At $8.00-$10.00 an hour without outside help it sure would be.:shrug:
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It's called grants, scholarships and loans. Anyone who says they can't go to school (college, trade school, etc.) because of the cost is simply making excuses.
 
Deuce said:
Find me constitutional backing for the US Air Force.
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The USAF was part of the army 70 years ago

lets get rid of all government programs with less constitutional support than the USAF. I don't think the welfare socialists would like that
 
The Man said:
It's called grants, scholarships and loans. Anyone who says they can't go to school (college, trade school, etc.) because of the cost is simply making excuses.
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Really? What about a married couple with child?
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
Well, that's my crappy, back of the envelope math, but you take their profit and divide it by their employees.
That doesn't account for any additional health care or increases in part time to full time hours, if all conditions were met.

Basically, they couldn't afford to give in to everything these guys want.
The money isn't there, without raising prices.
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Used to cost us pennies to go to a football game. Players got more money, owners made more profit, but prices went up. Low prices put others out of business, but did so in pert at the expensive of the worker. Is this really the better way?
 
RLN said:
Really? What about a married couple with child?
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If they're low income, they would get even more grant money, and the rest they could take loans on and pay back when they get a good job.
 
waas said:
What I'd like to see is WalMart raising their minimum wage such that all full-time employees live above the poverty line.
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If you drive up minimum wage, you drive up costs, which drives up the poverty line.

What you offered has no basis of lifting people out of poverty. It's like trying to raise the definition of "average". By strict definition, half of all people and things will fall below average.

I do so enjoy watching Marxists though.
 
The Man said:
If they're low income, they would get even more grant money, and the rest they could take loans on and pay back when they get a good job.
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Tell me about it. I have a niece that graduated from a school in Tennessee that is still hunting for the job she went out for in college. They're hounding her with bills for the tuition by mail. And yes she is in a job that is below her pay scale for what she went for at school.
 
Gipper said:
If you drive up minimum wage, you drive up costs, which drives up the poverty line.

What you offered has no basis of lifting people out of poverty. It's like trying to raise the definition of "average". By strict definition, half of all people and things will fall below average.

I do so enjoy watching Marxists though.
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Actually, half and half of all people aren't necessarily below and above average, that would be median. But I know what you meant.
 
The Man said:
Actually, half and half of all people aren't necessarily below and above average, that would be median. But I know what you meant.
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True. I was being a tad tongue-in-cheek, but what you said is true. I'll rephrase it to say "about half", assuming you could measure someone by a statistical score.
 
These Walmart employees deserve better wages and they deserve better from the company they work for especially when the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40% of America..
 
TheDemSocialist said:
These Walmart employees deserve better wages and they deserve better from the company they work for especially when the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40% of America..
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Why do no-skill workers "deserve" more? Average of $10.50/hour sounds pretty damn good to round up carts and say 'Welcome to Wal mart!" to people as they enter the store. How much do you think they should make? Should they make an engineer's salary?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
These Walmart employees deserve better wages and they deserve better from the company they work for especially when the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40% of America..
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Then you must think that Target, Kohl's, Burger King, McDonald's, Penny's, Crate & Barrel, Home Depot, Wendy's, Portillo's, every pizza place on the planet, convenience stores, gas stations, yada yada yada underpay their employees, too. And yet? There are waiting lists for those jobs...
 
The Man said:
Why do no-skill workers "deserve" more? Average of $10.50/hour sounds pretty damn good to round up carts and say 'Welcome to Wal mart!" to people as they enter the store. How much do you think they should make? Should they make an engineer's salary?
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Amen. The entitlement nation says "its not FAIR you get so much and I get paid $10.50 an hour" Of course...the entitlement nation also never seems to have the balls to start up businesses and create opportunities and live those ideals and visions they believe in. Its always someone ELSES job to start the business, bust their ass to make it succeed, and then when it is ubersuccessful THEN they get to bleat about their 'fair' share.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
These Walmart employees deserve better wages and they deserve better from the company they work for especially when the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40% of America..
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how much wealth the walton family has has absolutely no relevance to how much Walmart pays for a commodity. if walmart is getting the quantity and quality of labor it needs, than the wages they pay are sufficient
 
The Man said:
Why do no-skill workers "deserve" more?
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There is no such thing as "no-skill workers".

Average of $10.50/hour sounds pretty damn good to round up carts and say 'Welcome to Wal mart!" to people as they enter the store. How much do you think they should make? Should they make an engineer's salary?
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"On average, a Wal-Mart associate, according to IBISWorld, makes $8.81 an hour." http://old.gothamgazette.com/article/searchlight/20110214/203/3463
Facts » Making Change at Walmart
 
MaggieD said:
Then you must think that Target, Kohl's, Burger King, McDonald's, Penny's, Crate & Barrel, Home Depot, Wendy's, Portillo's, every pizza place on the planet, convenience stores, gas stations, yada yada yada underpay their employees, too. And yet? There are waiting lists for those jobs...
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Well saying i think the minimum wage should be raised to a liveable wage then i guess yes.
 
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