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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As opposed to naturally occurring cartels (pick an product: oil, internet providers etc) which are what? Full of good will and generous with customers?
    There's only one oil company in the world?
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Bloody hell. Brilliant. The day people insist a bunch of non-skilled workers at WalMart become a union is the day WalMart should give them all the big **** you and shut every door in every city across the country. But THATS truly what it all comes down...this whole BS about poor WalMart employees. Unions. Get more people on that union payroll, so you can send more money to the political campaigns. Notice no one is crying about convenience store workers, or Target employees, or any other non skilled employees. The Waltons like every other rich person in the country should divest, bury their funds, go on vacation for two years, and watch how much fun everyone has.
    I've been advocating an employer strike for a while now. Lock the doors of all major businesses and tell the public commerce will resume when we cut the ****. I would love to see how long the politicians could hold out before engaging in massive changes when salaries have to be frozen for inactivity, paychecks can't be earned because of inoperative hours, and the public goes into full revolt because the supply side of the economy is shut down.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no, the union IS THE PEOPLE IN THE PLANT, WHO ELECT THEIR BARGAINING COMMITTEE. they negotiate a binding contract....do you have a problem with contracts? businesses use contracts with each other....
    I have a problem with what is essentially a forced contract.
    If the union organizes, the employer is compelled under law to negotiate with the union, regardless of whether or not, the union is being ridiculous.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    If you truly think Wal-Mart would give up its monopolies because of unions, then you REALLY don't know this economy at all.
    I think they SHOULD. Doubt if they would. I suspect there could and should reach a point where the wealthy in this country finally get tired of the incessant whining and of being blamed for peoples miserable failures in life. I think the rich should 'unionize', completely withdraw from the economy and give 'the people' what they want. Or...more powerful...I think all the extreme liberals and socialists that spew their mindless twaddle about how things 'should' be 'should' get off their ass and start leading by example...showing us this awesome path to balance and equality instead of incessantly whining about how unfair it is that the rich get rich while THEY had their pennies stolen. You know...just a thought.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    disagree, that machine produces no product, nor does it 'provide' a service, it allows the company to either not hire someone to man that aisle, or not schedule someone to run it. hence, costing someone a job or income.
    There is no regulation telling Wall-Mart it has to have X check-out lanes per store. The store could just as easily reduce the total number of check-out lanes it has.

    I await the app that allows me to scan a bar-code with my phone and pay for the item then and there, before even leaving the isle. Such an app should have a menu to show receipt to the people greater at the door. Also, maybe the people greeter can look up my transactions through their Talzon. Maybe the free version of that app just allows you to buy from the store, and a paid version of the app would make promotion/coupon codes available. Maybe I could give the app my shopping list and it could show me generic brands or similar items on sale; or tell me if an item on my list is out of stock. Maybe the app could even plan my path through the store.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And yet, nobody of any significance on the right seems to complain about the cartels formed by oil companies. On the other hand, they keep advocating for more drilling, more resources being opened to these cartels in hopes that they'll somehow forget about making money and lower gas prices.
    Yea they aren't innocent.
    But again, two wrongs, don't make a right.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's only one oil company in the world?
    Oil company's are a sort of cartel, not a monopoly.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Bloody hell. Brilliant. The day people insist a bunch of non-skilled workers at WalMart become a union is the day WalMart should give them all the big **** you and shut every door in every city across the country. But THATS truly what it all comes down...this whole BS about poor WalMart employees. Unions. Get more people on that union payroll, so you can send more money to the political campaigns. Notice no one is crying about convenience store workers, or Target employees, or any other non skilled employees. The Waltons like every other rich person in the country should divest, bury their funds, go on vacation for two years, and watch how much fun everyone has.
    Unions are the SA of the Democrat Party, which is ironic as hell because unions are tax exempt.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Oil company's are a sort of cartel, not a monopoly.
    Not really. There are a few really big dogs out there like Haliburton and Schlumberger but most of the business is done by support companies. It's not like the well site is all done by one company, tools used come from one company division, subsidiary, or independent. Services on the well like staffing, service, and maintenance come from other companies, engineering, exploration, everything is done by a specialty company or division.

    To be a cartel it would require that there is a cornered market done by a small group of companies, couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, we just had an Irish company start it's first division in the U.S. here in Louisiana. If it were a true cartel there wouldn't be outsiders coming in and contracting.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Oil company's are a sort of cartel, not a monopoly.
    It's nowhere close to even being "sort of" a cartel. Do you know how many oil companies there are in The United States, alone?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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