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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't recall ever arguing "to make (anyone) feel better." It's a negotiation. Unions help with the negotiation.
    No, unions create a labor monopoly, where no outsiders can compete directly with the unionized labor.
    Sorry, but generally speaking, government granted monopolies tend to be abusive and/or destructive.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No, unions create a labor monopoly, where no outsiders can compete directly with the unionized labor.
    Sorry, but generally speaking, government granted monopolies tend to be abusive and/or destructive.
    no, the union IS THE PEOPLE IN THE PLANT, WHO ELECT THEIR BARGAINING COMMITTEE. they negotiate a binding contract....do you have a problem with contracts? businesses use contracts with each other....

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most of the Walmart protests are what was popularly coined as "astroturf."
    From the reports I've seen, the majority of those protesting are on the payroll of "OUR Walmart."

    Walmart's average wage is around $10.50 an hour and benefits like 401k with a 6% match, profit sharing, medical, in store discount card, ESPP, etc.
    This is plainly just an attempt of the union trying to get more due paying members.
    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The video was typical left wing media. They never mentioned that protesters were bussed in, you don't bus in people who actually work at the store.Just because someone claims to be a Walmart employee does not mean they really are.
    Walmart is not a career....it is a job...and when one applies their they know what thy are applying for....very few out walking even worked at a Walmart....if one wants more money go to a school that will teach you a trade...because jobs like this will never ever pay enough to sustain a family....

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Yea, it's actually $16.5 billion, but 33% is distributed in dividends and of course they either hold the rest for liquidity/float or they use it for further investment purposes.
    Viva hard work in building a successful global empire. In addition to that figure, i cant help but wonder how many people are invested that stock, how many managers have gone from unskilled employees to relatively well paid and successful individuals, how many charities they have funded, college scholarship programs they have funded, etc etc etc.

    That Sam Walton was a smart guy. Looks like a whole lot of win win win and not a small amount of competing whine whine whine.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No, unions create a labor monopoly, where no outsiders can compete directly with the unionized labor.
    Sorry, but generally speaking, government granted monopolies tend to be abusive and/or destructive.
    No, what randel said.

    I really don't want to merely repeat him, but unions merely allow employees a strong enough voice to effectively negotiate with management.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Both sides failed. The CEO was just paid better to fail.
    The CEO is one guy compared to 18,000 employees that lost their jobs by failure of union management.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No, unions create a labor monopoly, where no outsiders can compete directly with the unionized labor.
    Sorry, but generally speaking, government granted monopolies tend to be abusive and/or destructive.
    As opposed to naturally occurring cartels (pick an product: oil, internet providers etc) which are what? Full of good will and generous with customers?
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, what randel said.

    I really don't want to merely repeat him, but unions merely allow employees a strong enough voice to effectively negotiate with management.
    And how smart are they to loose 18,000 jobs at Hostess. Union management failure at it's worst.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    And how smart are they to loose 18,000 jobs at Hostess. Union management failure at it's worst.
    company mismanagement...putting people in charge who knew nothing of what they were doing.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    No, unions create a labor monopoly, where no outsiders can compete directly with the unionized labor.
    Sorry, but generally speaking, government granted monopolies tend to be abusive and/or destructive.
    All monopolies tend to be abusive and in the long term, are self destructive, whether they are government granted or not, and all will fail. Eventually the point will be reached where someone will figure out a cheaper or better alternative be it reverting back to lower or incentive based labor, finding ways to reduce costs, such as circumventing the laws, for instance by hiring only part time or contract workers, shipping jobs overseas, or simply closing.

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