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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    and they have their place today....
    Their place trying to remain relevant with bullying and govt mandates that impose their existance on States hardest hit by liberal policies.

    They associate with the party who's engineering their demise.

    If Unions want to survive in this world wide labor market they should turn their attentions and support to the party that lays out a plan for growth.

    Not one who taxes and spends its way into bankruptcy.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Their place trying to remain relevant with bullying and govt mandates that impose their existance on States hardest hit by liberal policies.

    They associate with the party who's engineering their demise.

    If Unions want to survive in this world wide labor market they should turn their attentions and support to the party that lays out a plan for growth.

    Not one who taxes and spends its way into bankruptcy.
    ok, now that your done with the conservative spiel......

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think that is inaccurate. I was just looking at a chart in class (one I sit in on to help students with note taking and reading) showing that real wages have gone down significantly (while CEO salaries have grow from 20X worker salaries to some 671 X more).
    I think there is a difference between wages and what you refer to as 'real wages.' Real wages are what you earn once inflation is factored in. Inflation is the result of government action, not capitalism. That the capitalist system isnt keeping up with the state induced inflation rate should be laid at the feet of political and monetary policy makers, not employers. I could, for example, give you a $1 per hour raise each year. That would be wage growth. If inflation were such that you needed a raise of $1.05 per year just to keep pace with rising prices, you would have a negative "real wage" growth. But again, that is not my fault, I am paying you more, deficits and money printing have just made what I pay you worth less.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    the shareholders own the business, the CEO reports to the board of directors, the board of directors give the CEO growth and profit targets and reward him if he meets or exceeds them, because when that happens the stock value goes up and the shareholders make money. most CEOs are also shareholders, so they do have a stake in the business.

    you really have no idea how corporations work, do you?
    I don't think you understand what I am saying. I know how a corporation works in theory. The CEO shouldn't be paid in salary and bonuses, he should strictly own a portion of the business and realize the profits and losses. Perhaps, all senior executives should be organized like this, they should not represent the board of directors, they should BE the board of directors. Make it so you can't pay executives of a corporation a salary/bonus/stock package; and you will see those management positions being filled by people who strictly want the business to succeed because of their personal stake in the business.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Unions still have there place int he workplace and still evolve there demands and are still very much needed, and workers still choose to be in unions, may be a smaller amount but they sill are very relevant in the system today.
    Sure, and they are all out buying Twinkies at the moment.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    disagree, that machine produces no product, nor does it 'provide' a service, it allows the company to either not hire someone to man that aisle, or not schedule someone to run it. hence, costing someone a job or income.
    Of course it provides a service, it allows you to pay for the goods that you have selected. It "costs the economy jobs" in the same way that a plow does.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, that is how the power is used. But that does not address if we really want to lower our standard of living. Do we really want to be closer to a third world country?
    How, exactly, are we lowering our standard of living by increasing the number of people who are able to get employment and escape poverty?

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Its also odd how some don't see the Union bosses fault in what happened with Hostess.
    Never met a union boss. Instead, I see high CEO salaries and worker pay being stagnet or decreasing. Benefits decreasing. Not sure how you scape out an argument that unions are destorying things under these conditions.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    If people were really upset with the ethics of Walmart then they wouldn't be around. It's a sad fact but Walmart continues to grow and prosper because people REALLY care about the low prices and convenience and not so much about Mary, the single mother of two, who makes 8 bucks an hour stocking the shelves. If people really gave a damn they wouldn't shop there, yet they do, despite the protests, in DROVES. It's really just a microcosm of the country as a whole. Everyone loves to talk about the need for fiscal sanity but let someone dare to cut your favorite government program and we all scream bloody murder.

    We all get what we deserve and right now we have a government hell bent on spending us into oblivion and corporations like Walmart who are hell bent on paying its employees next to nothing. How does it come to this? Simple. We continue to vote for it and we continue to shop there.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    How, exactly, are we lowering our standard of living by increasing the number of people who are able to get employment and escape poverty?
    You mistake a job as escaping poverty. Most of the poor work.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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