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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Reagan did not fail to enforce labor laws, the only possible exception was when he fired the air traffic controllers for an illegal strike of a government employee union.
    When you're denying plain facts I don't know what to argue ... Reagens department of labor basically allowed companies to do whatever they want ...

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think it's because I see it not being "the people" who are asking for better working conditions. I see it as "the union" pushing from the top down...instead of the workers pulling from the bottom up.

    Websites paid for by unions are continually reporting mis-information . . . tried to disrupt the company's business this last weekend . . . conducting a huge media blitz against WalMart . . . busing in what I must assume are "bought-and-paid-for demonstrators" . . . why? Because they are salivating at the thought of 1.5 million unionized WalMart workers paying $20-$25 a month in union dues. They have no altruistic intent. As usual? It's all about the money.
    Ultimately it would be the Wal-Mart workers who decide whether to unionize or not. Greed and money are also the motivator for Wal-Mart and their long held anti-union stance.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Ok, you just want to punish them for their success.
    No, I want to have an institutional framework for the economy that works for everyone.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, since that's a very poor answer, I'll help you: Unions have been spreading misinformation about WalMart for years. They salivate at the thought of 1.5 million union members paying their $15-$20 a month into their organizations. They will say anything, do anything, lie, misinform and go to the ends of the earth to enroll them as dues' paying members. They hope that by getting that cork out of the bottle? They will be restored to greatness. I guess we'll see.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    For your penance say ten Hail Mary's and ten Our Fathers and please try to avoid these sins again.
    I always had to stop at the "and lead a snot into temptation...."

    Never did understand that. Didn't like it then. Don't like it now.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    When you're denying plain facts I don't know what to argue ... Reagens department of labor basically allowed companies to do whatever they want ...
    Exactly...people always talk about actual legislation but one of the biggest ways the Executive branch wields power is who it puts in charge of different agencies and boards. The NLRB was stacked with corporate heads and the backlog of cases grew exponentially as they not only sided with management on the majority of cases but just didn't hear very many cases.

    If you're a worker fired because you tried to organize your workplace how long exactly do you have to wait before your case is heard? It doesn't take long for people to realize that if you get fired due to illegal activity it doesn't mean jack if you have to wait years or never get your date in front of the board.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You have absolutely nothing to base this on, but you "must assume" all of it anyway.

    Get a job at WalMart. Then tell me how peachy you think they have it. You've concocted this whole conspiracy theory from... what, exactly? What actual evidence do you have to support any of this?
    I have worked at Wal-Mart and I can tell you that it isn't near as bad as its detractors say.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Yes, and the employer has no option but to raise prices to account for the higher labor cost---then he loses sales, and has to lay off workers----so who wins?

    Have you followed what the unions did to Hostess?
    Unions are just a part of any free market. Blaming unions for a firm's failure is like blaming gravity for massive items being heavy.

    Hostess failed because it had lousy management that, for some strange reason, decided to hire union workers for jobs that anyone w/1/8 of a mind could do, and also created raunchy, low-quality uncompetitive products backed by poor marketing.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    And wages go up overall when workers organize.
    And then thier wages drop dramatically when that buisness goes out of buisness due to Union bullying. Just ask Hostess and the thousands of people that lost thier jobs due to union bosses.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Here's the downside. Unionizing Walmart will make prices go up somewhat. They can't let them go too high or other chains (Target, Costco, K-Mart, Online) will get the business. Employees will get lazier and over confident of not losing employment. Shareholders are paid lower dividends hurting investments and growth.

    The upside could be that better paid employees are happier therefore work harder and make shopping at Walmart a more pleasant experience. The higher paid employees spend more helping stimulate economic growth and cause other chains to have to pay better salaries. Ultimately the company improves overall because of increased production.

    Are both scenarios possible at the same time one offsetting the other, more or less?

    Now Walmart claims they keep prices low so we can have more for better lives. Anybody really buying that line?

    And how much more cheap toxic Chinese plastic inferior products do we need in our homes? Has Walmart finally peaked?
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