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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    So it just so happened that that "realization" came after Reagen stopped enforcing labor laws?

    Also polls show that many many workers would LIKE to join a union but don't have that option.
    Then why are the workers at non union car factories in the south getting good pay, good benefits, and good working conditions? why have they consistently rejected unions? Check into Mercedes, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, BMW, Kia, Hyundai---all non union. Then look at GM and how the UAW is now part owner thanks to obama and in exchange for its money and support.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Sure, you can create a situation where people will work for low, low wages. See the rest of the world. But again, is that desirable? We enjoy a high standard of living. We can lower that. Sure. But that too has consequences.
    Just what IS a low wage? Since you're comparing the US to other countries should we go by China where they get pennies on the dollar? Mexico? Iran? Our minimum wage alone easily tops thiers which by itself puts our poor people in a higher standard of living than those countries. So...whats your point again?
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Most of your ideas are nothing more than business decisions, and the market should get to decide whether or not those decisions are correct or not. Walmart seems to have little problem filling their available employment spots, and there is no such thing as an employee that is not there of their own choosing.. Each employee voluntarily came came to the store and filled out the application form fully knowing the terms and conditions of their employment. As other have pointed out, you are not wed to a contract, and you have ample time to search elswhere where your services may be of more value. In addition, Walmart, like many other corportions, tend to promote from within where possibe, so your starting salary need not be your ending salary. In addition, I have heard that there are more millionaire employees at Walmart than any other American corporation. You just have to ride with the company to success.

    I have no clue what corporate social responsibility is. If you mean that the corporation is somehow responsible for the welfare of their employees, then I would disagree. Everyone should be responsible for their own social and economic situations.

    I would agree that whatever the customer perceives as value will be reflected in the success of the company. The fact is that the company is the largest and one of the most profitable companies in the country, and if the market chooses to go elsewhere, then the company will of necessity either adapt or fail.

    Lastly, if you believe in your corporate model, you are free to start a competing retailer, and if your model more reflects the desires of the customer, then you should be proud to have been the one that brought Walmart. If you think that government intervention is the answer, then you will lose that right
    If you dont know what CSR is, why on earth are you trying to talk about it with authority? Its not the idea that companies are responsible for the well being of the employees. Wal-Mart is getting bad PR from the wage issue. Wage compression (where all employees approach the same wage due to the minimum wage increases erasing wage increases that were earned) is something every company needs to have an HR department looking at to avoid exactly what Wal-Mart is having issues with right now.

    Being largest means less adaptability. Means the best economies of scale but the least amount of agility to effect change and make significant shifts in company policy because of the sheer amount of size involved.

    I dont believe in either corporatism or government intervention. I believe in free markets. Corportism is something Wal-Mart excels and they extract competitive advantages from communities all the time. They are now getting community pushback, it happens when you use the community to get what you want, eventually the community will use you to get what they want. Minimum wage, labor and union laws are all part of that. Im not saying whether I agree or disagree with any of that, but we dont have anything resembling free markets right now.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Then why are the workers at non union car factories in the south getting good pay, good benefits, and good working conditions? why have they consistently rejected unions? Check into Mercedes, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, BMW, Kia, Hyundai---all non union. Then look at GM and how the UAW is now part owner thanks to obama and in exchange for its money and support.
    ALl of those shops are Union in Japan and Germany, infact in Germany those companies actually vote in half of the board of directors.

    Btw, which part do you disagree with about the 80s and 90s and outsourcing?

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Yes they do, paying out union funds are costs ... also all the revenue comes from the members too, legal costs, logistics and so on.

    Also what part of democtratically determined compensation don't you get.

    Also no we don't hate rich people.


    Right, you only hate conservative rich people, you love rich hollywood types and rappers---and of course union bosses. you left wingers are hypocrisy in action.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Exactly how is the government subsidizing walmart? before you answer look up the word "subsidy"
    I didnt say they were. I was just responding to anothers posters claim.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcat View Post
    Right, you only hate conservative rich people, you love rich hollywood types and rappers---and of course union bosses. you left wingers are hypocrisy in action.
    ... I don't HATE any of them ...

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    ALl of those shops are Union in Japan and Germany, infact in Germany those companies actually vote in half of the board of directors.

    Btw, which part do you disagree with about the 80s and 90s and outsourcing?
    Reagan did not fail to enforce labor laws, the only possible exception was when he fired the air traffic controllers for an illegal strike of a government employee union.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I didnt say they were. I was just responding to anothers posters claim.
    my mistake
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    ... I don't HATE any of them ...
    Ok, you just want to punish them for their success.
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