Page 46 of 154 FirstFirst ... 3644454647485696146 ... LastLast
Results 451 to 460 of 1532

Thread: Walmart workers demand better wages

  1. #451
    Sage

    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    11-06-17 @ 08:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    5,490

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Retail has always been low paying, part time entry level work, and always will be, so you can drop the drama. The sky will not fall if WalMart employees only make $10 per hour.
    no drama about it, this is the road we are heading down, the constant downward pressure on wages is leading us there.

  2. #452
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,269

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    no drama about it, this is the road we are heading down, the constant downward pressure on wages is leading us there.
    There is no downward pressure on wages. Wages are not being cut. Hours might be being cut in certain industries but that is mainly because health care costs are out of control. Attacking business wont alter that. Address the cause, not the effect.

  3. #453
    Sage

    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    11-06-17 @ 08:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    5,490

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    There is no downward pressure on wages. Wages are not being cut. Hours might be being cut in certain industries but that is mainly because health care costs are out of control. Attacking business wont alter that. Address the cause, not the effect.
    sorry, disagree with you, i believe you to be badly misinformed.....

  4. #454
    Sage
    RGacky3's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Last Seen
    08-25-15 @ 05:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Socialist
    Posts
    9,570

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense. Walmart cannot unilaterally raise its wages by 30% and remain competitive within its market. You obviously misunderstand what constitutes a discount retail outlet. Walmart's net profit margin is now about 3.5%, and I am sure that labor costs are more than 10% of its operating expenses.

    See link: Wal-Mart Stores Inc. (WMT) | Profitability
    Study: Increasing Wages at Wal-Mart Would Barely Affect Shoppers - Working In These Times

    And you can remain competitive, Walmart isn't so successful due to low wages, it is due to economies of scale, which further allows it to suppress wages for it's own employees and suppliers.

  5. #455
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    10-10-16 @ 10:59 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    6,073

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Thoughts anyone?
    First, union security agreements should be legal. Laws that prohibit them are an affront to a free market, since in a free market, all private contracts should be allowed.

    Second, American workers need to improve their work ethic. One of the reasons that Wal-Mart can get away w/paying its employees such low wages is that its employees in the US simply work too hard for that level of pay. If low-skilled workers just all got lazier, in general, they would be in a better position to negotiate for higher pay.

  6. #456
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    There is no downward pressure on wages. Wages are not being cut. Hours might be being cut in certain industries but that is mainly because health care costs are out of control. Attacking business wont alter that. Address the cause, not the effect.
    True, and they were being cut prior to any reform. Some call it the McDonald's effect. A friend of mind calls it the Mexicanization of America. So, regardless of medical costs, companies THINK they are better off with cheaper and cheaper labor costs. However, as the best consumers in the world, us having less money ultimately means less business.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

  7. #457
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,269

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    First, union security agreements should be legal. Laws that prohibit them are an affront to a free market, since in a free market, all private contracts should be allowed.

    Second, American workers need to improve their work ethic. One of the reasons that Wal-Mart can get away w/paying its employees such low wages is that its employees in the US simply work too hard for that level of pay. If low-skilled workers just all got lazier, in general, they would be in a better position to negotiate for higher pay.
    No, actually the reason WalMart can get away with paying the wages it does is because it is a competative wage that allows it to employ all the people it needs. That you think the wage is too low is irrelevant.

  8. #458
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    10-10-16 @ 10:59 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    6,073

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    There are a few reasons for that. First is that walmart is one of the biggest employers in the US and some people need those things called jobs. Also Walmart would be a company that can employ people from the least skilled up to the skilled people who handle the higher up functions of the company. Just because Walmart pays their retail employees like dung does not mean that they do not employ skilled workers nationwide for a number of purposes at reasonable salaries. Still, many of the people who find retail work in Walmart simply need the job.

    This leads to why Walmart is able to be such a crappy employer, and there is little the employees can do about it. Simply most employees in a specific walmart store are unable to walk out and strike.
    They can; all they have to do is just get together on a specific day w/high demand and call in sick.

    The threat of being fired from a place like Wal-Mart for collectively calling in sick on a day w/high demand is near zero.

  9. #459
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Last Seen
    10-10-16 @ 10:59 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    6,073

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, actually the reason WalMart can get away with paying the wages it does is because it is a competative wage that allows it to employ all the people it needs.
    Wages only become competitive if workers don't act like exploitable stooges. Whenever you walk into a store like Wal-Mart, you will always notice that some employees work hard, while others do little or nothing.

    The ones doing little or nothing are the smart ones and should serve as role models for the rest of the employees; after all, they prove that it isn't necessary to do much work to stay employed.

  10. #460
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,269

    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True, and they were being cut prior to any reform. Some call it the McDonald's effect. A friend of mind calls it the Mexicanization of America. So, regardless of medical costs, companies THINK they are better off with cheaper and cheaper labor costs. However, as the best consumers in the world, us having less money ultimately means less business.
    As far as I can tell, the only companies that can get away with that are entry level, no-skill-needed employers. Those types of jobs will never pay well, nor should they. I cant imagine that there are too many high skilled jobs that are cuting people to part time as a general stratagy. You can lose an unskilled employee without any real loss to your business since there is another ready to take his place. If you want to increase the pay for the unskilled, the only way to do that is to have fewer of them, thus making scarcity the engine of higher pay. But I dont see that happening any time soon. If ever.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •