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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nope, it's not a bad thing to ask...But when the answer is no, you don't have the right to demand anything.
    Says who?

    The point is, it's a simple compromise.


    Now, if you want to remove it from employment, UHC is still an option.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It is not evil to offer employment with defined entry level wages and benefits either. What many are saying is that those that had freely accepted these employment conditions, my then unionize and demand more compensation for the same (or less) work output. That did not work out so well at Hostess, and would have caused GM to go down, yet many see this as "fair". If you don't like the job, pay or working conditions, then quit and allow another to take your place. If Walmart, or any other employer offers too little, or demands too much, then they will not have applicants or ample employee retention to cover training/administrative costs and will have to change to attract and keep qualified employees.
    There is a process. Those companies mention, if they had worried more about their employees, and less about CEOs, they would likely have done better and not worse.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Market restrictions to new providers of services

    Lawyers are protected by the bar.

    As for lawyers, given the prices they charge, there is not enough. Imagine if a large number of people could practice law without having to get approval from the bar. How much lower prices will drop for real estate transactions. I am sure a legal clerk could do the same job for much less

    there are far too many attorneys. many of them are churning frivolous cases trying to create work for themselves. Until we have a LOSER PAYS law this will continue. I have had 11 cases with an attorney 10 have been thrown out as having no merit, one we settled for nuisance value against our advice because the client wanted it. If he had been hit with loser pays for his first case (65K in fees, 5 K in costs) I doubt he would have filed the other cases. Feel free to try to get that approved

    You can also argue if doctors didn't have to go to accredited medical schools or pass state boards the cost of doctors' services would go down

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Says who?
    Says the guy who owns the business as he shows you the door....When you work for someone else you don't own that job.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Says the guy who owns the business as he shows you the door....When you work for someone else you don't own that job.
    Own? Not the word I would use. But I am part of the team. We need each other, so some give and take is better for both of us.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Own? Not the word I would use. But I am part of the team. We need each other, so some give and take is better for both of us.
    if you are willing to work for the stated wage what else is needed?

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Own? Not the word I would use. But I am part of the team. We need each other, so some give and take is better for both of us.

    Yes own, the proprietor, the person who started the business, invested his money, his blood, sweat, and tears, and the person who would offer your ungrateful arse a job.

    You wouldn't call it ownership....good grief. I'm done.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if you are willing to work for the stated wage what else is needed?
    Needed? Varies from place to place and time to time. But it isn't just individual. One group negotiating with another group.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yes own, the proprietor, the person who started the business, invested his money, his blood, sweat, and tears, and the person who would offer your ungrateful arse a job.

    You wouldn't call it ownership....good grief. I'm done.
    Odds are others invested blood and sweat as well. It is often inaccurate to assume it was always just the owner by himself. The myth can be harmful when we forget the work of others.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh so you want a actual number? I thought you meant define it as what the term means. But anyways a number i would say $12 an hour.
    So, in your opinion, the minimum wage is about 35% (or $4.75/hour) too low. If we added 35% (or even just $4.75/hour) to all U.S. wages (to maintain balance) then many at the lower end would actually be worse off due to the resulting inflation, mechanization and outsourcing that naturally occur when labor costs rise. I personally like $12.25/hour, which makes a day's work (8 hours) yield $100 cash exactly - paying no income/payroll taxes at all.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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