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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you honestly believe that working harder would make Wal-Mart employees get paid more?
    Yes. Do you honestly believe that paying the average Walmart employee more will make them be more productive? It works both ways. Walmart, or any other employer, is unlikely to volunteer a pay increase, yet the manager realizes which of their employees get more done, make fewer mistakes and seem to rise above their peers; when these "model" employees ask for a raise and/or a promotion they surely will be taken seriously. It is common business sense to help retain their better employees, rather than to have to train a replacement unlikely to be as good as, much less better than, those that show promise.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    Thoughts anyone?
    they should find another place to work if they don't like the wages.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    Yeah, but she should stand by her principles.
    Why???????
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Thoughts anyone?
    interesting the source of this news (the reporting agency)

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Yes, that's why a large mix of the full time associates and managers came from entry level.
    Going full-time isn't a promotion. It's just working more.

    So, you promote a couple hard-working associates to supervisor/manager positions. What about the other 95% of the store's employees? Let's say every one of them works harder. How much more are they going to get paid?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    As I have with other posters, I reject your contention that Walmart has any responsibility or mandate to improve the general state of our economy or to reduce the number of people who take government benefits. Their only responsibility it toward maximizing the profits of their stockholders.
    I absolutely agree.

    However: It is corporations that have allowed this view to develop that somehow they can be responsive to other imperatives. These other imperatives can be classed as things which fall under the name "corporate responsibility". They have done this in order to short circuit any lawmaking which would create regulations on their behavior which would actually create new imperatives by which they would be lawfully governed. And then here you come along and basically say there is no such thing as "corporate responsibility".

    To which I again heartily agree. So, let's get back to the business of lawmaking, which will create corporate responsibility under the force of law.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Going full-time isn't a promotion. It's just working more.

    So, you promote a couple hard-working associates to supervisor/manager positions. What about the other 95% of the store's employees? Let's say every one of them works harder. How much more are they going to get paid?
    Promote some to full time associates and department heads, of course based on space available, but when you add in regular turn over, that's not always a problem.
    But sorry, there isn't always room for more full timers.
    That's life in retail.

    They can always pursue this option, it's practically free.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Going full-time isn't a promotion. It's just working more.

    So, you promote a couple hard-working associates to supervisor/manager positions. What about the other 95% of the store's employees? Let's say every one of them works harder. How much more are they going to get paid?
    what is the purpose of a wage? to get the quantity and quality of a commodity known as labor. If the current wage achieves that why should an employer pay more?

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yes. Do you honestly believe that paying the average Walmart employee more will make them be more productive? It works both ways. Walmart, or any other employer, is unlikely to volunteer a pay increase, yet the manager realizes which of their employees get more done, make fewer mistakes and seem to rise above their peers; when these "model" employees ask for a raise and/or a promotion they surely will be taken seriously. It is common business sense to help retain their better employees, rather than to have to train a replacement unlikely to be as good as, much less better than, those that show promise.
    Yes, in the libertarian universe of unicorns and fairies, this is how it would work. In the real world, Wal-Mart does not work this way.

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what is the purpose of a wage? to get the quantity and quality of a commodity known as labor. If the current wage achieves that why should an employer pay more?
    How come your free market economics support is so selective? If employees feel their current work situation is unfair and that the company is exploiting them, why shouldn't they get together and try and change it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    I absolutely agree.

    However: It is corporations that have allowed this view to develop that somehow they can be responsive to other imperatives. These other imperatives can be classed as things which fall under the name "corporate responsibility". They have done this in order to short circuit any lawmaking which would create regulations on their behavior which would actually create new imperatives by which they would be lawfully governed. And then here you come along and basically say there is no such thing as "corporate responsibility".

    To which I again heartily agree. So, let's get back to the business of lawmaking, which will create corporate responsibility under the force of law.
    not exactly a legitimate governmental power

    "corporate responsibility" tends to be a code name socialists use to redistribute wealth contrary to market forces

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