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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    How about the government protecting laywers?

    Or Doctors or engineers?
    remind me of the relevance? BTW there are too many lawyers, not enough engineers

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm....I see. So an actual number has nothing to do with it eh? How convenient. That way it never ends...As wages rise, so do prices, then wages must rise again to compensate for the price increases, and so on, and so forth until the company goes out of business and no one has a damned thing....Great plan genius.
    Oh so you want a actual number? I thought you meant define it as what the term means. But anyways a number i would say $12 an hour.


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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    want is one thing. and I don't have a problem with the employer having an advantage. it took the risk and supplied the facility
    Still only half the equation. Business requires both money and human capital.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Still only half the equation. Business requires both money and human capital.
    and to get human capital they have to pay wages sufficient to meet their needs

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The employer already holds that advantage and does fire people. History shows intimidation and other weapons as well.

    It's not evil to want a voice in a large company.

    Nope, it's not a bad thing to ask...But when the answer is no, you don't have the right to demand anything.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    remind me of the relevance? BTW there are too many lawyers, not enough engineers
    Market restrictions to new providers of services

    Lawyers are protected by the bar.

    As for lawyers, given the prices they charge, there is not enough. Imagine if a large number of people could practice law without having to get approval from the bar. How much lower prices will drop for real estate transactions. I am sure a legal clerk could do the same job for much less
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Oh so you want a actual number? I thought you meant define it as what the term means. But anyways a number i would say $12 an hour.
    And what then when prices go up to compensate for a 50% raise in wage? then what will the 'living wage' be? $20? Then $40

    Your position is deeply flawed, and the bad thing is that you refuse to see it......But, I am tired, must work tomorrow to get those groceries to the stores so you can eat....Night now.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and to get human capital they have to pay wages sufficient to meet their needs
    Yes, and that comes through negotiation, either individual or collective. But the business needs both. That's the point.

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    Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There is no such thing as "no-skill workers".
    Greeter? Cart collector? Those are both no-skill jobs. Unless you consider the ability to say "Welcome to Wal mart!" and walk across a parking lot pushing carts skills. I don't. A skilled position is work that the average person can't automatically do with no training.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    The employer already holds that advantage and does fire people. History shows intimidation and other weapons as well.

    It's not evil to want a voice in a large company.
    It is not evil to offer employment with defined entry level wages and benefits either. What many are saying is that those that had freely accepted these employment conditions, my then unionize and demand more compensation for the same (or less) work output. That did not work out so well at Hostess, and would have caused GM to go down, yet many see this as "fair". If you don't like the job, pay or working conditions, then quit and allow another to take your place. If Walmart, or any other employer offers too little, or demands too much, then they will not have applicants or ample employee retention to cover training/administrative costs and will have to change to attract and keep qualified employees.
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