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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    The corporate world of today is looking for private and/or individual advantage and will pay any sum to both sides of the political aisle to get it. The playing field has gotten very uneven.
    It makes no sense to me to have so many lower middle class paying no taxes, but when their pay is low they simply can't afford to pay taxes. I am not talking about the uneducated and unskilled, but those who make $50K, have a mortgage and 3 kids, and end up not paying taxes.
    Instead of giving decent pay raises to those with skilled jobs, over time we have given them tax breaks until they pay no taxes at all, even getting more back than they pay in.....but the corporate world likes it because they don't have to pay out so much in salaries. Their business expenses have gone down which is just as good as a tax rate reduction, the bottom line looks better either way. Now, if they can just get the salary break AND a tax reduction.....
    The poor will always be with us, where did we hear that first? New Testament, I think.....
    I have relatives who are poor by choice, and they get no sympathy from me. They are lucky that low skill jobs are still available. If the retail businesses decide to go more online and less bricks and mortar, there will be even fewer low skill jobs.
    IOW, things could easily get worse.....
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    and so far Obama has done next to nothing about it. I was shocked to see him cave in and allow the Bush "temporary" tax cuts get extended.
    If he lets it slide again, he will be a twice elected idiot...
    Sorry. You're neglecting to mention the rest of the story.

    If Obama would not have extended those tax cuts than Republicans would have never have allowed what Obama wanted and that would include:

    1. extends unemployment benefits for 13 months
    2. includes a one-year Social Security tax cut, among other measures.
    3. the taxes would have affected the middle class too if not signed in it's present state
    4. included tax breaks for millions of college students and their families and extensions of the earned income tax credit and $1,000-per-child tax credit.
    5. Had Congress not acted to address the expiring Bush-era tax cuts, all Americans would have seen a tax increase on January 1st. (The average tax increase per family, the White House said, would have been $3,000.) Mr. Obama, who had long opposed extending the Bush tax cuts for America's highest-earners, has argued he had no choice but to agree to GOP demands to do so in order to avoid a tax increase on the middle class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Sorry. You're neglecting to mention the rest of the story.

    If Obama would not have extended those tax cuts than Republicans would have never have allowed what Obama wanted and that would include:

    1. extends unemployment benefits for 13 months
    2. includes a one-year Social Security tax cut, among other measures.
    3. the taxes would have affected the middle class too if not signed in it's present state
    4. included tax breaks for millions of college students and their families and extensions of the earned income tax credit and $1,000-per-child tax credit.
    5. Had Congress not acted to address the expiring Bush-era tax cuts, all Americans would have seen a tax increase on January 1st. (The average tax increase per family, the White House said, would have been $3,000.) Mr. Obama, who had long opposed extending the Bush tax cuts for America's highest-earners, has argued he had no choice but to agree to GOP demands to do so in order to avoid a tax increase on the middle class.
    Obama should be a soccer player, anyone who can simultaneously kick 5 cans down the road without wakening the public is very talented...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Obama should be a soccer player, anyone who can simultaneously kick 5 cans down the road without wakening the public is very talented...
    That's nothing. You should see how Michelle Obama jumps rope.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    I don't know if you can show me the actual number of millionaires that Walmart has produced, but I can show you just how tough it is on a Walmart worker with pay and advancement.

    Walmart's Internal Compensation Documents Reveal Systematic Limit On Advancement ~ Huffington Post

    Walmart Internal Compensation Document
    Like I said, that is just what I have heard, and it is not important enough to me to bother to look it up. I do know that Walmart has employee stock option plans available even for part time employees. Taking advantage of whatever is available to you to increase your net worth and compensation is up to you.

    As others besides myself have pointed out, you are not forced to work for Walmart or any other employer. And if you do work for a company where you do not feel you are appreciated, move on, get a better education start your own business, do whatever is necessary to improve your lot in life. I did read part of the Huffpuff piece, and my immediate thought was that why on earth would you get pregnant if you do not make enough to support a new child. I]m repeating myself, but your lot in life generally tends to depend on your own actions.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Sorry. You're neglecting to mention the rest of the story.

    If Obama would not have extended those tax cuts than Republicans would have never have allowed what Obama wanted and that would include:

    1. extends unemployment benefits for 13 months
    2. includes a one-year Social Security tax cut, among other measures.
    3. the taxes would have affected the middle class too if not signed in it's present state
    4. included tax breaks for millions of college students and their families and extensions of the earned income tax credit and $1,000-per-child tax credit.
    5. Had Congress not acted to address the expiring Bush-era tax cuts, all Americans would have seen a tax increase on January 1st. (The average tax increase per family, the White House said, would have been $3,000.) Mr. Obama, who had long opposed extending the Bush tax cuts for America's highest-earners, has argued he had no choice but to agree to GOP demands to do so in order to avoid a tax increase on the middle class.
    A. encourages many to not even try to find a job
    B. a trifle, at best
    C. good, that will get them off the couch for a change.
    D. EITC needs to go away, wages need to go up to make it so. Tuition costs need to go down instead of giving tax breaks for tuition. Child tax credit is means tested, I hope.
    E. again good....

    Ever watch the old shell game in action? We have taxes, tax brackets, tax exclusions, tax breaks, tax incentives, tax credits, etc. under a bunch of rapidly moving shells, until nobody can know where the pea is......there is a reason these things are so confusing, it is done on purpose, to keep us unaware of what is really going on....whatever the hell that is...
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    If the retail businesses decide to go more online and less bricks and mortar, there will be even fewer low skill jobs.
    IOW, things could easily get worse.....
    Yeah. OK. I don't want you coming in here and start a thread on why you get pissed off while trying to talk to a computer instead of an actual human being on the phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Like I said, that is just what I have heard, and it is not important enough to me to bother to look it up. I do know that Walmart has employee stock option plans available even for part time employees. Taking advantage of whatever is available to you to increase your net worth and compensation is up to you.
    Yeah if you can keep up with your bills while investing in that; it must be harder for people part time too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Yeah. OK. I don't want you coming in here and start a thread on why you get pissed off while trying to talk to a computer instead of an actual human being on the phone.
    why should that happen? almost everything I buy on line involves filling in the blanks, it is all on me to get it right.
    computers are far more reliable than humans...and when computers foul up, the most common cause is that a human programmer did something wrong...
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    why should that happen? almost everything I buy on line involves filling in the blanks, it is all on me to get it right.
    computers are far more reliable than humans...and when computers foul up, the most common cause is that a human programmer did something wrong...
    I agree with you. I shop on line alllll the time. Never a problem. When they take PayPal? It's a cinch. Amazon's my favorite. I use an Amazon Visa card and get $$ to spend there. Their prices are great. Their delivery is generally two days. Never had a problem. I think that's definitely the wave of the future. And when it becomes more solidly ensconced? Window shopping and the consumerism that generates will disappear. IMO.
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