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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In case you didn't know this but we are not a democratic socialist country. Though I can see the confusion on your part considering the direction that this country is going.
    Of course we're not. We're all about the idea that if you're successful, you don't owe a thing to the country that allowed you to be. Why else would there be conversations like this and posts like the one to which my comment was directed?

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    My civic duty was to not raise any kids to be in the bottom half of the economy....we paid for their college, for starters. They have degrees and no student loans, so they start out better than the wife and I did.
    My wife had 2 years of college on her parents, I had 2 years of technical schools paid for by our rich uncle.
    When our kids were teens, and some of their friends seemed to be unsure of their plans for the future, I offered advice, which is about all you can do considering most won't take the advice.
    Life on low wages is the almost guaranteed result of poor education....
    Exactly. Which is why the US needs to extend the level of guaranteed, free education. Back when we promised a free high school education, that was sufficient. But, now that the world's become so technically advanced, folks need more.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Walmarts sense of civil duty is satisfied by paying taxes, providing employment for many, and their numerous charitable and education offerings. They offer unskilled citizens not only a job but an opportunity to develop skills and promotion opportunities. They don't owe anyone some mythical living wage. You however are free to start a business and do whatever you deem appropriate.
    I've presented my definition of the poverty line. If WalMart cannot provide their employees with a wage that puts them above it, we have a problem. That's all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Of course we're not. We're all about the idea that if you're successful, you don't owe a thing to the country that allowed you to be. Why else would there be conversations like this and posts like the one to which my comment was directed?
    No one has said that Wal-Mart doesn't owe this country. But who ever said that they don't do anything for their country? They pay taxes don't they? That is all that is required of them to pay back the country that allowed them to prosper. Yet they also give to lots of charities they also have great...well...maybe not GREAT...but close, medical benefits plus give thier employees 10% discount on most items in thier stores. They also promote healthy life styles and even attempted to get me to quit smoking. Funny how you seem to forget all those good things that they do.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    I've presented my definition of the poverty line. If WalMart cannot provide their employees with a wage that puts them above it, we have a problem. That's all there is to it.
    Why should they pay thier employee's above your poverty line?
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No one has said that Wal-Mart doesn't owe this country. But who ever said that they don't do anything for their country? They pay taxes don't they? That is all that is required of them to pay back the country that allowed them to prosper. Yet they also give to lots of charities they also have great...well...maybe not GREAT...but close, medical benefits plus give thier employees 10% discount on most items in thier stores. They also promote healthy life styles and even attempted to get me to quit smoking. Funny how you seem to forget all those good things that they do.
    Are you aware of the reason WalMart gives that discount? Well, simply put, it's because, in most cases, if one works at WalMart, they can only afford to shop there. This discount only enforces that.

    Funny how you make this company out to be some kind of humanitarian icon.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Exactly. Which is why the US needs to extend the level of guaranteed, free education. Back when we promised a free high school education, that was sufficient. But, now that the world's become so technically advanced, folks need more.
    The last 2 years of High School could have an optional vocational program, in some places they do. Surely for those who are clearly not going to college. I have seen HS grads go right to an auto dealership and make good money. Their HS auto shop was that good....
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Why should they pay thier employee's above your poverty line?
    Why? Because the workers fill the pockets of the business owners. Do you not find it difficult to swallow that the creators of wealth don't own that said wealth?

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    Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    I've presented my definition of the poverty line. If WalMart cannot provide their employees with a wage that puts them above it, we have a problem. That's all there is to it.
    Walmart has no obligation to meet your standard and their employees are under no obligation to take those jobs. You on the other hand are free to but your ass, create a business, and pay got employees whatever you choose. You should DO that. There are so many of you that believe you have this better ideal...yet.. Your ideas somehow never seem to translate to the real world. Shocking...right? People extraordinarily benevolent with others success.

    There are more than a few web sites a and instances of actual employees describing decen wages, decent working conditions, and opportunities to advance to shift and section managers. Walmart does what it is supposed to do. You should do what you profess to believe in.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Sorry, I meant civic duty. And I wasn't talking about WalMart this time - though I suppose it's still applicable.

    Civic duty refers to the basic responsibility we all have to those around us. It refers to the responsibility a CEO has to the folks who earn for him/her. To the responsibility a person has to their countrymen. It refers to the compassion that is the foundation of democratic socialism.
    WalMart does indeed give back....the first thing they do is to offer products at an affordable price that allows those in the lower rungs of the economic ladder to have much that they wouldn't have otherwise. The larger picture that WalMart does is evident in their response to Katrina, and Sandy....

    "Over the next few days, Wal-Mart's response to Katrina -- an unrivaled $20 million in cash donations, 1,500 truckloads of free merchandise, food for 100,000 meals and the promise of a job for every one of its displaced workers -- has turned the chain into an unexpected lifeline for much of the Southeast and earned it near-universal praise at a time when the company is struggling to burnish its image."

    Wal-Mart at Forefront of Hurricane Relief

    "What we're doing to help
    Some examples of the disaster relief efforts we've been involved in so far include:

    Working with the American Red Cross to help support disaster shelter operations by donating essential items (water, food, snack items, personal care products, diapers, blankets) to serve those displaced by Hurricane Sandy.
    Pledging up to $1.5 million to our disaster relief partners (American Red Cross, Salvation Army, Feeding America) to help with relief efforts in the hardest hit areas to ensure the essential needs of residents are being met.
    Facilitating numerous requests from several government officials in the impacted areas, such as Mayor Booker in Newark, Governor Christie of NJ and Mayor Bloomberg in NYC. Those requests have ranged from transporting generators to schools and hospitals in the city of New York last night to delivering about a million bottles of water throughout the northeast.
    By teaming up with a number of our suppliers, we are working to lend an extra hand to the areas that need our support. Some examples of what we're doing include:

    JOHNSONVILLE: On Nov. 9-11, we're hosting the World's Largest Grill in select New York store parking lots to serve hot meals for those affected by or responding to the devastation and mass power outages of Hurricane Sandy. Our supplier Johnsonville is bringing the brats and the grill, the stores and clubs are providing the buns and drinks and our associates are volunteering to help feed the community.
    Additionally, Sam's Clubs in the Northeast are also offering cell phone recharging stations and temporarily waiving membership fees to those areas affected by the storm."

    Walmart Corporate - Hurricane Sandy Disaster Response

    Ok? so what would you like to see?

    Regardless of what you wish this country of our was, what it is, is NOT a democratic socialist society.

    I disagree, with both your ad hom and the bridge you try to build between Democrats and myself.

    Whiter you choose to agree or not, the idea that government should have it's hand in the economy has been primarily positive.
    "ad hom"? What ad hom? You know, when you can't hold your own in the debate with facts, it is the weak way out to claim that you're being attacked....No one attacked you.

    But, show me where top down governmental control of an economy has worked long term.
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