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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Are people with retirement funds (including a lot of current and former Walmart associates) part of the "investor class?"
    Yes, just like addressing Prop 13 here in California would mean "harming" retirees who planned for the 1% rate. Even though the issue is commercial real estate.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Yes, just like addressing Prop 13 here in California would mean "harming" retirees who planned for the 1% rate. Even though the issue is commercial real estate.

    Everyones retirement is on the casino table. Has it always been? Or did it come to pass because it keeps individuals "off the backs" of Wall St?
    For me, it's been that way.
    Why should my investments for retirement be altered because some dude, wants a raise at a low skilled job.

    My money is on the line, his isn't.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Seeing that Walmart doesn't have (sic) any responsibility or mandate to improve the general state of our economy or to reduce the number of people who take government benefits, than why does the rich deserve tax cuts and loopholes?
    I don't know. I've never said they DID deserve any of that.

    Dude, you seem to be intent on talking about something I've expressed no opinion on in this thread. Why is that?
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't believe that. WalMart has sucked up 1.5 million retail workers from the labor market. If anything, if their pay was as bad as it's purported to be, market forces should have forced other retailers to pay better than WalMart in order to attract employees.
    Walmart hasn't "sucked up" anything. They have not provided any more jobs than would have existed otherwise. They have merely moved jobs from mildly higher paying employers into their own job offerings. Other employers were providing all the same services as Walmart before Walmart ever existed. Those other employers were offering the jobs that now Walmart offers. No "sucking up" of any excess labor, on net. Think it through, next time.

    Retail has always been low pay.

    When a company is unionized, it's costs go up by 25 to 35%. Talk about putting WalMart at a competitive disadvantage. The last WalMart store unionized was in Canada. WalMart shut down the store.

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    All of the retail industry should be unionized. Then, there wouldn't be any disadvantage for any employer.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Walmart hasn't "sucked up" anything. They have not provided any more jobs than would have existed otherwise. They have merely moved jobs from mildly higher paying employers into their own job offerings. Other employers were providing all the same services as Walmart before Walmart ever existed. Those other employers were offering the jobs that now Walmart offers. No "sucking up" of any excess labor, on net. Think it through, next time.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    All of the retail industry should be unionized. Then, there wouldn't be any disadvantage for any employer.
    All that would do, is hand the lion's share of business to online retailers.
    I can wait 2 days to get my stuff at a 25% discount.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    Living wages are only subjective to a certain extent. If your wages put you below Harrington's definition of the poverty line - that is, needing to choose between essentials - , then something needs to change.

    Harrington's socialist view of what America "should" be, is much a do about nothing. His lament's are a look at exactly why socialism is rejected in this country.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So how much per hour should WalMart pay a greeter or cart pusher? Right now that is $8 per hour (more than minimum wage btw)
    That's not a question for me to answer, as I don't work for WalMart. What should be done is tiered wages, with a standard minimum wage(set by an agreement between the protesters and WalMart) and a maximum of 7:1.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    That's not a question for me to answer, as I don't work for WalMart. What should be done is tiered wages, with a standard minimum wage(set by an agreement between the protesters and WalMart) and a maximum of 7:1.
    Then what say should you have in it? We have witnessed exactly what unions, and meddling like this brings....See Hostess.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Harrington's socialist view of what America "should" be, is much a do about nothing. His lament's are a look at exactly why socialism is rejected in this country.
    And yet you refuse, or rather, are unable, to critique his beliefs past that. There's a reason Harrington was so credible - that is, he provided a sensible economic solution, using the Democratic Socialism often practiced Europe.

    He advocated for unionization, government set minimum wages, civil responsibility and workers' self management.

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