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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, you do. Or at least a reasonable one. My wife's $1,200 dollar a month med bill requires I be able to pay for it.
    Ok, but your wife's med bill, isn't the med bill for non sick people.
    You're jumping to conclusions based on your specific situation, when most people won't have such a med bill in their early adult lives (18-40).
    That's 22 years of dedicated savings, to help cover medicines, co pays, deductibles, etc.
    Which, if you do it right, is growing with, if not more than inflation.

    This is similar to the system Singapore uses and how they keep their medical costs, at a fraction of any other nation.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Ok, but your wife's med bill, isn't the med bill for non sick people.
    You're jumping to conclusions based on your specific situation, when most people won't have such a med bill in their early adult lives (18-40).
    That's 22 years of dedicated savings, to help cover medicines, co pays, deductibles, etc.
    Which, if you do it right, is growing with, if not more than inflation.

    This is similar to the system Singapore uses and how they keep their medical costs, at a fraction of any other nation.
    No, I'm actually giving you the situation many are in.

    Largely, non sick people are the problem. They become a problem when they get sick and are unprepared for it. Young people do get hurt and ill. Happens more than you might think.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I'm actually giving you the situation many are in.

    Largely, non sick people are the problem. They become a problem when they get sick and are unprepared for it. Young people do get hurt and ill. Happens more than you might think.
    Statistics tend to beat you on this.
    Yes young people do get ill/hurt, but on average, they don't, not at least as much as older people.

    You seem to be completely resistant to anything that isn't full hilt coverage.
    Which is terrible as it creates over insured groups, precisely the reason why costs keep ballooning.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    If someone wants a better pay, then one should seek better education or higher positions. You can't have a floor job, most Wal-Mart workers such as: janitor, stock boy, boxer, cashier, etc. and expect to get raises whenever you would like. Remember how replaceable you are, it most likely took three to five days to train you for your job and there will always be someone else out there willing to work for your wages.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Apple and Microsoft got most of their research and technology from institutions like MIT and other not for profit public sector institutions, the same with pharmaceutical companies ... btw, its not just YOUR country, there are tons of countries with pharmaceutical companies ... also they arn't Americna pharmeceutical companies, they are multi-nationals, I love how you are patriotic about "American" companies, that don't give a rats ass about you or your country.
    MIT is a public university?

    I'm not responding to the rest. I have yet to see you provide a single source/proof/etc besides that one graph, which by the way didn't even disprove my point that the rich lost a greater % of wealth after 2007. All you are doing is rephrasing everything I say in your own idealogical rhetoric. My main points are this, and I'm not repeating them A. Capitalism is growing the world economy B. The world middle class is exploding, with most of the growth coming in capitalist Asia & C. Reductions in poverty+ growth based solely on nonrenewable resources (Venezuela) and little foreign investment and trade or infrastructure development. If you would like to attempt disprove my main points with actual sources instead of your own person vantage point, then maybe I can have an actual debate with you.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Whether doctors could do it cheaper or not, they could not do it cheap enough to make it affordable for all. A good number of people would not be able to afford health care.

    Now, I think we agree UHC would be better than what we have now. But a lack of a third means less access overall.
    Well... right now we aren't doing it cheap enough for all.

    But, I think if it makes it more affordable for 95% of the population, that certainly frees up a lot of resources to help the other 5% out.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Statistics tend to beat you on this.
    Yes young people do get ill/hurt, but on average, they don't, not at least as much as older people.

    You seem to be completely resistant to anything that isn't full hilt coverage.
    Which is terrible as it creates over insured groups, precisely the reason why costs keep ballooning.
    I would not suggest as much as older people. Only that the number is likely higher than you think.

    As for acceptance, the program is fine as far as it goes. But it's like pissing on a wild fire. It just doesn't do enough to matter much.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Well... right now we aren't doing it cheap enough for all.

    But, I think if it makes it more affordable for 95% of the population, that certainly frees up a lot of resources to help the other 5% out.
    I don't see anything else doing anything significant for 95% of the population.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't see anything else doing anything significant for 95% of the population.
    I'm still not sure how you think lowering prices will cut access..... Government forcing lower prices by law will cut access, but removing competition barriers in order to lower cost will not; and lower prices should make healthcare more affordable=increase access.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I'm still not sure how you think lowering prices will cut access..... Government forcing lower prices by law will cut access, but removing competition barriers in order to lower cost will not; and lower prices should make healthcare more affordable=increase access.
    Say I can afford $5 and it costs $100. Even you lower it to $80 you have not made it accessible.

    Medicine will not lower enough, can't lower enough to improve access enough to include a significant number of people.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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