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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    That is an oversimplified model of the dynamic in play.
    Not at all.

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    Over time, Walmart's way of doing business have moved the market average down. Other stores have had to compete with a company that successfully exploited its workforce, and to meet that aggressive competitor in the marketplace, have had to behave more like Walmart. To quote current averages is meaningless in this kind of a context.
    Walmart can not have that power, they're reach is limited to some retail and grocery goods.
    Walmart has virtually little effect on low skilled fast food and other similar industry wages.

    Not only that but many companies in the same sector, have a different market preference which can support higher wages, Publix and Target for instance.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Actually, these jobs were paid higher before Walmart took over the world. That is simple fact. As to extending our arguments to mean that we think that Walmart jobs should yield a 'comfortable' existence, that is your doing, and is on you. Please quote where someone said they wanted Walmart work to yield a comfortable life.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    You can go back and reread what you posted and I quoted.
    yup - did that - and it still made no sense.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    That is an oversimplified model of the dynamic in play.

    Over time, Walmart's way of doing business have moved the market average down. Other stores have had to compete with a company that successfully exploited its workforce, and to meet that aggressive competitor in the marketplace, have had to behave more like Walmart. To quote current averages is meaningless in this kind of a context.
    I don't believe that. WalMart has sucked up 1.5 million retail workers from the labor market. If anything, if their pay was as bad as it's purported to be, market forces should have forced other retailers to pay better than WalMart in order to attract employees.

    Retail has always been low pay.

    When a company is unionized, it's costs go up by 25 to 35%. Talk about putting WalMart at a competitive disadvantage. The last WalMart store unionized was in Canada. WalMart shut down the store.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    They organize into a union, in order to exploit.
    Creating a labor monopoly, to artificially drive up wages, is exploitation.
    OOOOHHHH!~!!!! I thought you meant they organized into a labor union to STOP being exploited.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    OOOOHHHH!~!!!! I thought you meant they organized into a labor union to STOP being exploited.
    If there are alternatives, labor has choices and attempts at exploitation are limited.
    Unionizing Walmart employees is just an attempt at them, creating a monopoly on labor.

    Something that would otherwise be illegal, as it is purposefully anti competitive.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    That is an oversimplified model of the dynamic in play.

    Over time, Walmart's way of doing business have moved the market average down. Other stores have had to compete with a company that successfully exploited its workforce, and to meet that aggressive competitor in the marketplace, have had to behave more like Walmart. To quote current averages is meaningless in this kind of a context.
    Typical liberal talking points. No one has to work for Walmart, period. Further there are people standing in line hoping to get a job at Walmart, hardly they are being exploited.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Thoughts anyone?
    I hope those workers are successful in getting a union, raising their wages and actually being able to work full time employment at those stores. Especially seeing how Wal-mart practically destroyed the mom and pop shops competitions that would have otherwise employed people with full time work at a decent wage. Wal-mart if full of **** when they say most of their workers are content,I known people who worked at Wal-mart.None of them don't have anything good to say about Wal-mart and dislike the fact Wal-mart most only hires part-time employees instead of full time employees. Many people only work there because there is nowhere else they can get employed at especially when there is high unemployment.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    The terminology "Living Wage" propagated by collectivist drones is a misnomer. It assumes that 1. wealth is a zero sum game, and that money, and wealth is static. 2. It assumes that business is not, or should not be there to make money.

    Both are fallacies.

    The bluster at some WalMart's through out the country organized and mugged for the camera's by bused in UFCW union actors was just that, a show. The quicker that the drones realize they are being played by communist voices in Unions the better off we will be in this nation.
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