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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    If only we could send striking workers to prison here in the US.

    Well, at least we can send their jobs to China.
    The management was far-sighted enough to send their jobs to China. They anticipated this and maintained their profit margins.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They are lowering hours? Goodness - why?!? Has some major new piece of legislation made it prohibitively expensive to employ low-skill labor for more than 35 hours a week, or something?



    On the contrary - the amazing efficiency, global operation, and incredible economic benefit that is Wal Mart could only have been American - it is some of the best of America.
    Unionize the pigs and you can watch the needle move for an improved lower middle class and economic recovery take some from the top pigs and spread it around and the country will be all the better...or the top pigs can leave and we will right promptly created a new set of the top rich people...they need us more than we need them...they dont make a dime without us a FACT that always seems to elude you marine...the top cant fight a war without troops and the rich cant get rich without people actually making them their money

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    This is exactly why Walmart is for people like college kids. Instead of fussing about the hourly wage, get off your rear end and make yourself worth more. I'll say it again, if you can't walk away and find a better paying job then it's pretty safe to say that you're not worth more.
    yeah yeah more armchair blather

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Unionize the pigs and you can watch the needle move for an improved lower middle class and economic recovery take some from the top pigs and spread it around and the country will be all the better...or the top pigs can leave and we will right promptly created a new set of the top rich people...they need us more than we need them...they dont make a dime without us a FACT that always seems to elude you marine...the top cant fight a war without troops and the rich cant get rich without people actually making them their money

    So you are for Market socialism?

    Market socialism refers to various economic systems where the means of production are either publicly owned or cooperatively owned and operated for a profit in a market economy. The profit generated by the firms would be used to directly remunerate employees or would be the source of public finance or could be distributed amongst the population through a social dividend.[1][2] Theoretically, the fundamental difference between market socialism and a non-market socialism is the existence of a market for the means of production and capital goods. Market socialism is distinguished from models of mixed economies, because unlike the mixed economy, models of market socialism are complete and self-regulating systems.[3] Additionally, market socialism is contrasted with social democratic policies implemented in capitalist market economies. While social democracy aims to achieve greater equality through taxes, subsidies and social welfare projects, market socialism does so through changes in patterns of enterprise ownership and management.[4]

    Market socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you are for Market socialism?
    Nope I am not a socialist I am a believer in capitolism when it worked for EVERYONE when the rich put limits on their own greed and spread the wealth..and even CARED about thier employees when companies enjoyed sheer loyalty from their employees when employees would argue with other people why you should buy their companies product, when they had retirment parties for employees that had 40-50 yrs working for them and cried because they didnt want to leave..when employees could go to work care about what they were making and EARN A LIVING not get rich EARN A LIVING and when they look ahead if they got sick and be able to afford to go to the doctor and have a retirement that didnt include a can of DOG FOOD for supper everynight...instead today you have zero loyalty going up and down you have people tell you dont that crap its garbage because they hate their employers..and the top just sucked the life out of everything till theres nothing left and the working class cant make a living....
    Im going to say this and goddamnit I mean it...I have utterly no respect for you consciously greedy young guys that dont give a **** if people die in the street and harp incessantly on how bad the super rich that get super richer at the expense of every other everyday american has it...screw that its A BULL**** STORY that you just bought and run with

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Yeah especially since Wal-Mart already helps with food drives and homeless shelters.
    With the amount of subsidies they receive from taxpayers, they should.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry but there are plenty of jobs available.
    The best job is where you hire lobbyists to convince Congress you need more taxpayer handouts. The GOP is full of such jobs.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Nope I am not a socialist I am a believer in capitolism when it worked for EVERYONE when the rich put limits on their own greed and spread the wealth..
    Well, hold on....I am not trying to call you any names, but it would seem that your stance to this point is in direct agreement with what Market Socialism is.

    ..and even CARED about thier employees when companies enjoyed sheer loyalty from their employees when employees would argue with other people why you should buy their companies product...instead today you have zero loyalty going up and down you have people tell you dont that crap its garbage because they hate their employers..
    Well, think about it...I grew up as I have pointed out in the past, with a father that was a small businessman. He had about 10 employees, and much like you describe took care of them pretty well. I remember when one guy that was with my dad, seems like forever, was injured while cleaning the gutters at his house. Since my dad was a single Pharmacy/store he didn't offer much in the way of health insurance, but he picked up the hospital tab, and for six weeks took his paycheck, and groceries to the mans home and presented it to his family. I know because I was with him. And it made a difference to the man and his family. Things like this still happen in an anecdotal basis. But the moment you start demanding this be the case, people back away from it. It's human nature. Also, as far as loyality goes, that goes for both sides. Since pensions are not a part of the employment landscape anymore, the employee feels less tied to a job for the long run, however, the costs of training and investing in that employee haven't changed....You get the respect you give. If your an employer that treats his employees like ****, and turns over a lot of people, your likely pay a higher cost in training off setting any potential raise structure, and will fail in the long run. Likewise if youallow yourself to be a development ground so that employees can gain the experience and leave then you are a fool as well, and will fail. The risk is much higher for employers than for employees.

    and the top just sucked the life out of everything till theres nothing left and the working class cant make a living....
    Greed goes to the end of employee greed as well....Ask Hostess.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The best job is where you hire lobbyists to convince Congress you need more taxpayer handouts. The GOP is full of such jobs.
    Oh, and the demo side of the isle is pure? Yeah, ok.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    With the amount of subsidies they receive from taxpayers, they should.

    Do you write anything off? Why should the tax payer subsidize you?
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