So you are for Market socialism?
Market socialism refers to various economic systems where the means of production are either publicly owned or cooperatively owned and operated for a profit in a market economy. The profit generated by the firms would be used to directly remunerate employees or would be the source of public finance or could be distributed amongst the population through a social dividend. Theoretically, the fundamental difference between market socialism and a non-market socialism is the existence of a market for the means of production and capital goods. Market socialism is distinguished from models of mixed economies, because unlike the mixed economy, models of market socialism are complete and self-regulating systems. Additionally, market socialism is contrasted with social democratic policies implemented in capitalist market economies. While social democracy aims to achieve greater equality through taxes, subsidies and social welfare projects, market socialism does so through changes in patterns of enterprise ownership and management.
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Im going to say this and goddamnit I mean it...I have utterly no respect for you consciously greedy young guys that dont give a **** if people die in the street and harp incessantly on how bad the super rich that get super richer at the expense of every other everyday american has it...screw that its A BULL**** STORY that you just bought and run with
Last edited by lpast; 12-02-12 at 12:19 PM.
Well, think about it...I grew up as I have pointed out in the past, with a father that was a small businessman. He had about 10 employees, and much like you describe took care of them pretty well. I remember when one guy that was with my dad, seems like forever, was injured while cleaning the gutters at his house. Since my dad was a single Pharmacy/store he didn't offer much in the way of health insurance, but he picked up the hospital tab, and for six weeks took his paycheck, and groceries to the mans home and presented it to his family. I know because I was with him. And it made a difference to the man and his family. Things like this still happen in an anecdotal basis. But the moment you start demanding this be the case, people back away from it. It's human nature. Also, as far as loyality goes, that goes for both sides. Since pensions are not a part of the employment landscape anymore, the employee feels less tied to a job for the long run, however, the costs of training and investing in that employee haven't changed....You get the respect you give. If your an employer that treats his employees like ****, and turns over a lot of people, your likely pay a higher cost in training off setting any potential raise structure, and will fail in the long run. Likewise if youallow yourself to be a development ground so that employees can gain the experience and leave then you are a fool as well, and will fail. The risk is much higher for employers than for employees...and even CARED about thier employees when companies enjoyed sheer loyalty from their employees when employees would argue with other people why you should buy their companies product...instead today you have zero loyalty going up and down you have people tell you dont that crap its garbage because they hate their employers..
Greed goes to the end of employee greed as well....Ask Hostess.and the top just sucked the life out of everything till theres nothing left and the working class cant make a living....