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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Being serious here, thank you for the vote of confidence. That said, think about why those jobs are moving overseas. The better jobs like manufacturing, tech help, etc. have been artificially overvalued here, that's a problem, people here want more than competitive countries and with our regulatory nature and those associated costs something has to give. All that said, if I start my percussion company I want to do it here in La. and with American labor, we(Americans) are the best, we do the best work as a rule, and honestly I would put my patriotism to the test to make that happen. But if I have to pay a person 300% more to buff a drum shell there is a breaking point. This is where the choice is becoming limited, rules from D.C. are automatically making American labor uncompetitive, I hate it, but it's economic reality.
    Goes back to overvaluation. Is a tech worth 9$/hr. when a person in India will do it for 2$/hr. with the same competence?
    I went from making an average of 15$/hr. to whatever the market would bear selling insurance, took a radio gig to lighten the financial burden, got burned out and am looking to get into a completely different field now. I understand what it takes to "make it" but also understand that if I'm not the guy in charge certain concessions have to be made on my part. The offensive thing here is people who are employees feeling entitled to the same perks as investors and management(their immediate employers) Disagree. Walmart has had a long list of applicants in every type of market, many of their district managers started by sweeping floors(Sam Walton's book), the fact is when you want to move up in a company you learn how it works, the internals, who is owed money, and how to best fulfill the mission statement. The employees who typify what an organization wants to be will move up, those who feel entitled will stagnate.
    NO NO NO nooooooooooo thats a lie they tell you..that the job here was overvalued...Look LA can you live as father with two kids in a east coast state for 11,000 a year...NO YOU CANT and thats what a chinese worker costs some of the shoe factories that move to china...it wasnt overvaluled here...those chinese may be able to live on 11 grand...you cant use a pay toilet in NYC everyday for 11 grand a year....its all bull**** they sent those jobs to china so the pigs could have more and they didnt and dont care one iota for americans and their plight...but they are going to cut their own throat eventually...because europe isnt going to b able to buy their chinese garbage their broke...not enough americans are giong to be able to buy their garbage...and they will wind up making even less...china is at a tipping point btw...chinese owners have gotten smarter and greedier and are demanding more from our pigs..chinese workers are demanding more and shipping costs just keep skyrocketing soon it wont be a big financial benefit anymore for the pigs thats why they were pushing for the latin america nafta agreement...thats their next screw americans move to enrich ME

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    NO NO NO nooooooooooo thats a lie they tell you..that the job here was overvalued...Look LA can you live as father with two kids in a east coast state for 11,000 a year...NO YOU CANT and thats what a chinese worker costs some of the shoe factories that move to china...it wasnt overvaluled here...those chinese may be able to live on 11 grand...you cant use a pay toilet in NYC everyday for 11 grand a year....its all bull**** they sent those jobs to china so the pigs could have more and they didnt and dont care one iota for americans and their plight...but they are going to cut their own throat eventually...because europe isnt going to b able to buy their chinese garbage their broke...not enough americans are giong to be able to buy their garbage...and they will wind up making even less...china is at a tipping point btw...chinese owners have gotten smarter and greedier and are demanding more from our pigs..chinese workers are demanding more and shipping costs just keep skyrocketing soon it wont be a big financial benefit anymore for the pigs thats why they were pushing for the latin america nafta agreement...thats their next screw americans move to enrich ME
    No dude. Think about this, 11K a year not so long ago was a decent living, not fancy, but one could make it. These days the dollar is so inflated that it will barely buy a coke, used to be a person could get a sandwich, fries, and a drink for around a dollar. Through government intervention we've gotten to the point that in less than 30 years a dollar isn't worth what a quarter was, that same government has put labor ahead of company interests by law, in those kinds of conditions it is natural to find the cheaper market, that's just economics. Now, we overvalue labor, to the point where a person who literally only has to push a cart stack makes as much as assistant managers did not more than a decade ago, it always comes to this, if the job can be done and shipped for less than the hourly wage of one entry level worker that job will be outsourced, it's not greed, it's business.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    No dude. Think about this, 11K a year not so long ago was a decent living, not fancy, but one could make it. These days the dollar is so inflated that it will barely buy a coke, used to be a person could get a sandwich, fries, and a drink for around a dollar. Through government intervention we've gotten to the point that in less than 30 years a dollar isn't worth what a quarter was, that same government has put labor ahead of company interests by law, in those kinds of conditions it is natural to find the cheaper market, that's just economics. Now, we overvalue labor, to the point where a person who literally only has to push a cart stack makes as much as assistant managers did not more than a decade ago, it always comes to this, if the job can be done and shipped for less than the hourly wage of one entry level worker that job will be outsourced, it's not greed, it's business.
    La you cant be homeless in NYC with 11 grand and eat 3 times day nvm get a flophouse room

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    La you cant be homeless in NYC with 11 grand and eat 3 times day nvm get a flophouse room
    My point is that government interference has negated what used to be great wages on behalf of people who overestimate their value in the labor market. The only course I see half the country on is to continue the overvaluations, if a person isn't worth more they should take it upon themselves to be worth more.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    La you cant be homeless in NYC with 11 grand and eat 3 times day nvm get a flophouse room
    Do you think Walmart payes low wages to all of their employees? Say their distribution warehouse workers? Their truck drivers? Their maintence people? Are all of those jobs on the low end of the scale? How about management? Low middle and high were does their wages rank? I am interested in what excactly you know, about the Walmarts pay rankings are in various job classifications so I can understand what your knowledge base is. If you research it I think it will open your eyes and surprise you. I know what a lot of their distribution warehouse guys and the semi-truck drivers are paid. I want you to research it so you dont have to rely on my word. Further you might want to compare those wages to other competitors. If your eyes werent opened before they will will be at that point. Your choice. If you want I can give some of the numbers to you. By the way Walmarts competitors are numerous Target, and Kmart, and the Dollar Stores among them. Everyone wants to knock the king off the hill.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    My point is that government interference has negated what used to be great wages on behalf of people who overestimate their value in the labor market. The only course I see half the country on is to continue the overvaluations, if a person isn't worth more they should take it upon themselves to be worth more.
    heh..wanting to make a decent pay now has a new catch phrase for the rich corporatists a decent pay is overvalued ok..lol...what we need is more unions to undervalue the pigs pay at the top

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    Do you think Walmart payes low wages to all of their employees? Say their distribution warehouse workers? Their truck drivers? Their maintence people? Are all of those jobs on the low end of the scale? How about management? Low middle and high were does their wages rank? I am interested in what excactly you know, about the Walmarts pay rankings are in various job classifications so I can understand what your knowledge base is. If you research it I think it will open your eyes and surprise you. I know what a lot of their distribution warehouse guys and the semi-truck drivers are paid. I want you to research it so you dont have to rely on my word. Further you might want to compare those wages to other competitors. If your eyes werent opened before they will will be at that point. Your choice. If you want I can give some of the numbers to you. By the way Walmarts competitors are numerous Target, and Kmart, and the Dollar Stores among them. Everyone wants to knock the king off the hill.
    Anyone at the store level isnt paid what they should be...I say that because my daughter was an asst store manager at a walmart...she made peanuts what was even more laughable was they cut her hours as a assistant manager...anything other than arkansas is expendable to walmart and probably more than half of arkansas too...ask a walmart store manager a question he will tell you oh I have no control of that arkansas doe it.
    If you tell him your freezing in his store..arkansas controls the thermostats I have no control...if you tell him you cant seel in the store cuz half the lights are out..Oh I have no control over the lights its controlled from arkansas....if you complain hes out of an item..he tell you i have no control over that all the ordering is done from arksansas...walmart store managers have less control that dept heads in other companies.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    heh..wanting to make a decent pay now has a new catch phrase for the rich corporatists a decent pay is overvalued ok..lol...what we need is more unions to undervalue the pigs pay at the top
    Seriously, your bombastic responses are just quasi conspiracy theory.
    Yes, low skill labor is not valuable, that why it's low skilled and has few barriers to entry.

    This should be common sense stuff for adults to grasp.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

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    she made peanuts
    Interesting!
    One getting paid what they are worth is now peanuts, instead of "getting what one is worth".
    Very interesting indeed.

    There is a solution that I never hear liberals/socialists speak about.
    Starting a Company/Corp. of their own, and paying exactly what they think is not peanuts.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    heh..wanting to make a decent pay now has a new catch phrase for the rich corporatists a decent pay is overvalued ok..lol...what we need is more unions to undervalue the pigs pay at the top
    No, dude, if a person has a light resume or no other skills they have no value, no leverage. If minimum wage is more than an unskilled employee is worth that is overvalued.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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