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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Depends on the law. There are many laws that I don't like that I think it would be ok for courts to ignore. Oh wait a minute, scratch that, if I wanted to ignore law or the Constitution, I would be a Union loving Liberal.
    Insults aside, the point would be one concerning the law.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is simply not true. The union doesn't hire anyone, so it can't sell it to the employer. The union merely works for employees, hired by the employer, to negotiate a contract. All employees are hired by the company. You are the one mischaracterizing the relationships.

    The union is like the mob guy you ask a favor of in dealing with a guy you don't like. They over do it, kill the guy, and you owe them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The union is like the mob guy you ask a favor of in dealing with a guy you don't like. They over do it, kill the guy, and you owe them.
    Nice objective view you have there j.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You get paid what you're worth, not a penny more. If you want more, earn it.
    an employee at walmart who works twice as hard as another employee both get paid the same amount. How do you earn more money if you do everything right and don't get a raise, a promotion, or anything that would even increase the possibility of a raise or promotion? I have an idea: you could protest and demand to be compensated for your hard work. Which is exactly what some people do.

    Also, I noticed that you quoted me and then didn't answer any of the questions I asked. In fact, what you said was unrelated to what I said. Unless you're saying that every employee of every company makes exactly what they deserve and wage is directly related to the amount of effort exert by a respective employee. If you believe that is true, then I'd like to know the name of the world you live in.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    an employee at walmart who works twice as hard as another employee both get paid the same amount. How do you earn more money if you do everything right and don't get a raise, a promotion, or anything that would even increase the possibility of a raise or promotion? I have an idea: you could protest and demand to be compensated for your hard work. Which is exactly what some people do.
    ...implying that union wages are performance based....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Also, I noticed that you quoted me and then didn't answer any of the questions I asked. In fact, what you said was unrelated to what I said. Unless you're saying that every employee of every company makes exactly what they deserve and wage is directly related to the amount of effort exert by a respective employee. If you believe that is true, then I'd like to know the name of the world you live in.
    Earth. It's quite nice, you should come visit.

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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    What baffles me is that people still try to find work there despite Walmart's pretty terrible reputation with employment and employee benefits.


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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Most people dont know this, but on the transportation and distribution side of Walmart, employees make excelent way above average wages. For instance there is a waiting list to be a semi truck driver in the Walmart fleet. Its the type of position you have to know somebody who knows somebody. It is one of the best paying driver jobs in the industry, paying typicaly above 80,000 a year when the typical driver will normaly get payed around 45-50,000 for driving more miles. I had to go to a combat zone and work 3-4 times as much to exceed their pay it is that good. That kind of pay in the industry is normaly for ultra specialized type of hauls and equipment. Not all Walmart employees want to even think about striking they got it so good. Walmart is not all cheap all the time.
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Has anyone in this thread ever gone on strike? Has anyone posting here picketed their employer? Have you tried to start a union?
    Some people got raises and others who did all the physical work did not. I gave my boss notice that I was quitting over my pay at the end of the next pay week. He asked if I had another job. I told him no. He made a comment about that not being the best decision I could make. I told him I could leave at the end of the day if he preferred because I could find a job pretty much anytime I wanted, made plenty of money doing side jobs, and I'd go back to minimum wage just to be somewhere else and let him know that others were already looking. He said he would need to speak to someone. He asked the others about this who confirmed they were planning to leave too and he then went to his boss. The next day those who did not get a raise initially, myself included, got raises effective the beginning of the next pay cycle. The good part of it was that this prompted me to go back to school ASAP to be done with working for other people. This was not a big corporate business and losing everybody with experience would have made my boss's job a lot less cushy so it sometimes is just a matter of playing things from the right angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Earth. It's quite nice, you should come visit.
    I'll come visit if you go back to my last few posts and answer some of the dozen or so questions I asked. And also how you worked at Wal-Mart for 3 years doing every job there and still can't spell the name right
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    Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    What you are saying is that it is selfish to ask for more, but not selfish to refuse to give from what you have. If your car breaks down on the highway, is it selfish to ask for a ride back into town? If a man gets on the bus to go to work and finds he has no change in his pocket, is it selfish to ask for change from another passenger? And is it respectable to have a pocket full of change but refuse to lend a hand to this man asking nothing more than a few quarters that may very well end up underneath your couch cushion? Now consider the same situation with the knowledge that right before the man got on the bus, his change was stolen. Did the individuals in Walmart's board room ever ask for more? Did they ever speak up for themselves, demand they be fairly compensated for their work? Do you really think the millionaires in this country made it to where they are without ever taking a penny more than what they were given?

    Have you ever considered that maybe you're not an employer because you have never asked for more? If you refuse to see virtue in the "have nots" standing up for themselves, that's fine. But you are mistaken in presuming the virtue of the "haves" in this matter. These are people who were given everything and still demanded more. You can stand up for them, but make no mistake about who you are standing up for.
    What I am saying is that it is arrogant to demand more from an employer. You either earn more and ask for it, or move on, it is the employers business, they took the risks, including hiring the employee. If a business goes under the employee finds another job, the owner may never recover. If the employee wants to make the rules he can open a business, if he wants more money it's up to that employee to prove it, this is what modern employees seem to forget.
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