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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I really didn't think you would point to anything that is not true since it's all true.
    As it's not really the point, I didn't even check to see if was. If everything you wrote was 100% true, the comments we're discussing would still be wildly hyperbolic and unsupported, if not entirely inaccurate.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    C.I.A. Closes Its Climate Change Office - NYTimes.com


    Question: Why the hell did the CIA have a climate change office to begin with? No wonder we are broke!
    Yeah. Unless they're trying to figure out how to assassinate foreign leaders with lightning or something I can't really see climate change being in their wheelhouse.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    If anyone would bother to use Google, they would understand what the office was tasked to do.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    As it's not really the point, I didn't even check to see if was. If everything you wrote was 100% true, the comments we're discussing would still be wildly hyperbolic and unsupported, if not entirely inaccurate.


    Eyes that are closed are still eyes.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Eyes that are closed are still eyes.
    So are those that are hallucinating.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    According to your article, they had one to study security implications. I believe they do this with nearly anything they can envision possible threats growing from.
    You were correct on this!
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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So are those that are hallucinating.

    I seem to recall that there was a faction in our society that was very upset because the Republican Administration did not "connect the dots" prior to the 9/11, the original 9/11, terrorist attacks.

    The dots here seem to be far more prominent and noticeable and far more connectable than those that used to cause outrage.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    The criticism of the Bush administration was and still is over the fact that after having been told by the departing Clinton people that terrorism would be the number one problem on their watch, the Bush people simply back-burnered the whole idea. They already had an agenda, and terrorism wasn't on it. When the administration (i.e., Bush and Cheney) received the CIA's final report on responsibility for the USS Cole bombing in February 2001, they decided the issue was "stale" and simply walked away from it. Too busy with other things.

    It would have been unrealistic to have expected the Bush administration to uncover the 9/11 plot. These things always depend to a great degree on luck. It is entirely realistic however to understand that the plot could in fact have been discovered, but only by those who were actually paying attention and were thus in a position to take advantage of whatever luck happened to come their way. The Bushies had no one in such a position.

    As for the CIA move, the staff and mission of the previously separate office were simply moved on an organization chart to become part of another office. The idea that this constitutes closing it down is kind of far-fetched. Leave it to the media.

    As for the climate debate itself, there actually isn't one, and clown-bots and their pathetic challenges to the actual science have no reason to be part of it in any case. It is CO2 that is causing the increase in temperature. There are no natural causes that can explain the rise in CO2 since the start of the industrial revolution and the accompanying increase in the rates at which carbon-based fuels have been burned. Some people can put two and two together. Some people -- for political, financial, or other similarly not at all relevant reasons -- simply refuse to.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I seem to recall that there was a faction in our society that was very upset because the Republican Administration did not "connect the dots" prior to the 9/11, the original 9/11, terrorist attacks.

    The dots here seem to be far more prominent and noticeable and far more connectable than those that used to cause outrage.
    No, they so far appear to be imaginary dots.

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    Re: CIA closes its climate change offices

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    exactly! down right ignorance.
    No, we are certainly aware the gospel of climate change is an important tenet of left-wing propaganda. That doesn't mean we should be excited to see resources wasted by the CIA pretending to investigate this. Now go make Al Gore richer by buying carbon offsets from his company.

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