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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonsa View Post
    what 47%? I thought all that hullabaloo about romney's comments proved that he was talking about two seperate groups of people that he in his infinite ignorance conflated. The democratic base which actually is less than 47% of the electorate. And the takers who just want handouts from the government, and won't take responsibility for their own lives, which is far far less than 47% (less than 5%) and includes republicans and dems and independents?
    Who's talking about Romney? I'm talking about the 47% of the American taxpayers who pay no Federal income tax.
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    I just returned from a great Thanksgiving family reunion. We are split pretty evenly between cons and libs but it was never brought up. We all were just so happy to get together and see each other that politics seems very unimportant. I save that stuff for places like this, "for everything their is a season".

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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Who's talking about Romney? I'm talking about the 47% of the American taxpayers who pay no Federal income tax.
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    actually that's why I asked the question, so thanks for the answer.
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Are you suggesting no one is living off the dole on a government entitlement?
    Not what I said at all. What I am saying is most people, even of those in the "47%" are not living off the government. Even the majority of those who do receive financial assistance from the government have at least part time and/or low paying jobs.
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Who's talking about Romney? I'm talking about the 47% of the American taxpayers who pay no Federal income tax.
    Who include plenty of people who still do work, including many military members. I guarantee that for at least the 3rd year in a row, my family will be in that bracket of "47%", and that is how long my husband has been active duty Navy. It is also guaranteed that next year we will definitely be in the same situation since the only taxable income my family will earn at all next year will be my reserve weekend and AT pay, which will be maybe $7K. My husband will be in the ME until late next year, if not longer. All of his pay as long as he is there is tax free. We have 2 children, and I go to college. We will have more than enough tax credits to make up for what taxes we would owe on income.

    There is nothing that sets us apart, as Americans, from those who do pay taxes on what they earn. We are still Americans. Heck, many military members in the same position as us that I know are Republicans.
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Who include plenty of people who still do work, including many military members. I guarantee that for at least the 3rd year in a row, my family will be in that bracket of "47%", and that is how long my husband has been active duty Navy. It is also guaranteed that next year we will definitely be in the same situation since the only taxable income my family will earn at all next year will be my reserve weekend and AT pay, which will be maybe $7K. My husband will be in the ME until late next year, if not longer. All of his pay as long as he is there is tax free. We have 2 children, and I go to college. We will have more than enough tax credits to make up for what taxes we would owe on income.

    There is nothing that sets us apart, as Americans, from those who do pay taxes on what they earn. We are still Americans. Heck, many military members in the same position as us that I know are Republicans.
    You know this is just ****ing sad as hell. Our military personnel should NOT be making so low a pay grade as to put them in the 47% bracket. They risk thier very lives for this country and get very little compensation for it? Not to mention the PTSD, nightmares, cold sweats and god knows what else our service members have to go through. Its one thing to pay a moderately low pay grade when the service members are sitting at home with never once having set foot in a war zone, quite another to pay them that same wage when they are in the war zone. Any service member that is out in the danger zones for at least 1 full tour should be recieving 5 times what a general sitting at home in the States should be making...particularly one thats never set foot in a war zone....and for the rest of thier lives. (so long as they are not dishonerably discharged that is)
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'd imagine this is neither the first election nor the last that will be an excuse for dysfunctional families to stay apart on the holidays. I think, though, that Facebook has given many of these people a heads-up and a head-start. Ha!
    Yes, I highly doubt the election caused the problem.

    More like the election was just the excuse or the 'straw that broke...'.

    Often times, imo, people have a hard time telling someone what they actually do not like about them. So instead they just focus/vent on other things they disagree on.

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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Because they would easily beat you in a debate using their talking points from Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
    LOL.....right-wing propoganda won't help you win a debate....at least in anyone's view except your own.
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You know this is just ****ing sad as hell. Our military personnel should NOT be making so low a pay grade as to put them in the 47% bracket. They risk thier very lives for this country and get very little compensation for it? Not to mention the PTSD, nightmares, cold sweats and god knows what else our service members have to go through. Its one thing to pay a moderately low pay grade when the service members are sitting at home with never once having set foot in a war zone, quite another to pay them that same wage when they are in the war zone. Any service member that is out in the danger zones for at least 1 full tour should be recieving 5 times what a general sitting at home in the States should be making...particularly one thats never set foot in a war zone....and for the rest of thier lives. (so long as they are not dishonerably discharged that is)
    I'm not really complaining about the pay. A good part of why we are in the 47% is that much of our compensation like BAH, a good portion of our medical, dental, and even life insurance isn't taxable. The rest is his base pay, but since the other stuff is paid for (and living in military housing, our utilities are part of our rent which is the BAH), our only bills are phone, cable, internet, car/renter's insurance, car payment, and a couple of small credit cards, and then buying groceries and other essentials. We live pretty comfortably on what we do make, it is just that we don't end up paying taxes on what would otherwise be taxable.

    I just don't like that there are some people who automatically consider anyone who is in that 47% as someone who doesn't work or who gives nothing and likely never gave anything and never will to their country. To me, that is a very narrow view and really only describes a very small percentage of that 47%, not anywhere close to the majority. And it makes it worse that they don't even think about the families like mine where one or both of the taxpayers in the family are military and its set up so that we are paying less taxes, through compensation for our duty in general and extra when we are in combat areas. Even many of those others who aren't military very likely gave back in other ways to their country, either in the year they are in the 47% or in previous years, or they may just do so in the future, whether it is through higher taxes or public service of some sort.
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    Re: Voting For Obama Keeps Families Away From Each Other For Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Are they really being ignored? You mean you want more entitlements, and free stuff. I think Romney wanted to put them to work, but to many that's a bad thing. Work, I don't don't do that?
    I never said that you can't put them to work, but do write off 47% of the nation
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