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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    She was on a company trip, and she was with co-workers, but it's not clear she was on company time at that moment. She may have been on an off-time side trip. The story isn't clear on that point. People usually do have off-time on company trips.
    If you're on the company dime you're on the company time. In fact for paid conferences many companies have had to dismiss representatives who disgraced them "on their time". That said it's up to the organization to decide what the course of action should be.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If you're on the company dime you're on the company time. In fact for paid conferences many companies have had to dismiss representatives who disgraced them "on their time". That said it's up to the organization to decide what the course of action should be.
    Yes, if you're on the company dime, you're on the company's time. Foolish are the conventioneers, etc. who forget this.

    It is up to the company, whose clients are those who have learning and intellectual disabilities, to decide the two employees' fates. I wonder what's in their contracts.

    If Lindsey Stone loses her job, she may struggle to find another one because she's demonstrated such poor judgment. Please, 30 and posing so stupidly? And then posting it on FB?

    I wonder what she calls her clients. "Retards"? "Dummies"? If she can't be respectful in a cemetery, how sensitive is she on the job?

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Yes, if you're on the company dime, you're on the company's time. Foolish are the conventioneers, etc. who forget this.

    It is up to the company, whose clients are those who have learning and intellectual disabilities, to decide the two employees' fates. I wonder what's in their contracts.

    If Lindsey Stone loses her job, she may struggle to find another one because she's demonstrated such poor judgment. Please, 30 and posing so stupidly? And then posting it on FB?

    I wonder what she calls her clients. "Retards"? "Dummies"? If she can't be respectful in a cemetery, how sensitive is she on the job?
    And this is in the non profit sector, much more lenient rules. Hiring managers may not be willing to risk their own butts by bringing in a potential liability.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    The blessing of living in an at-will employment state, I can fire anybody for any reason and never have to explain why. It would be up to them to prove why unless I objected to their unemployment benefits.

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    On the scale of offensive things in the world, this is little more than a zit on the moon. She was behaving like an ass, proudly posted photos of herself behaving like an ass, and received the consequences of that behavior from a bunch of offended people. Nothing to see here... so far.

    However... and it's a big one... she was literally working at the time she indulged in this behavior, and was representing her company (who serves veterans, among others) on their dime. Because she was on a business trip, her behavior reflected on her company. If they want to fire her, I really don't care. Poor judgment and certain jobs just don't go together. If they decide to keep her, I really don't care. Maybe her judgment isn't always that lousy.

    Frankly, I think she's dumber than a sack of hammers to have thought such a stunt would be well-received on the internet, but when I hit the "submit" button on this post, I will already have forgotten her.

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Works for a company that provides services for disabled vets, poses on company time, a photograph that could be taken the wrong way uploaded to Facebook, sparks public controversy....damages the company's reputation. Yeah, sounds like a legitimate problem for the company to me.

    In the more public era of Facebook, it's time to face up to the facts that you should treat it like you are branding yourself. For instance, during the election cycle, I kept most of my opinions quite quiet in comparison with some folks that used it to blare out controversial/obscene statements. Photographs are carefully evaluated for whether or not I would be okay with professionals seeing it. I also lock my profile down. It's a good habit for folks to follow. Inhibition, folks.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    What she does on company time is company business.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What she does on company time is company business.
    Absolutely. It would be like me going to a convention and getting popped for a drunk and disorderly, the company won't care about partying within reason, but anything illegal, unethical, or otherwise associated with my trip that reflects badly is subject to termination.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    What she does on company time is company business.
    A decent chunk of the time, so does her off time. Many businesses, organizations, or government work see the internet space, where your credentials and data are constantly linked to the company/org./government, as an extension of their image.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    It's a real shame she got fifteen minutes of fame... even fifteen seconds... over this stupid photo.

    Her Dad needs to smack her in the mouth and otherwise we should just f'gettaboutit.

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