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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Why is the sign stupid? Is it stupid to post a sign in front of the tomb of the unknown soldier asking for silence and respect? If so, why?
    If people are too dumb to not know that already, then they can't read or they make a joke about it. Either way it's a stupid sign.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Society sets these standards.

    Their enforcement is evident in what is happening to this lady.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If people are too dumb to not know that already, then they can't read or they make a joke about it. Either way it's a stupid sign.
    Well, perhaps in your country nobody ever disrespects those who have given their lives for their country.

    Oh wait, there is this:


    Student who urinated on war memorial spared jail | UK news | The Guardian

    Maybe that sort of stuff doesn't outrage you. It actually does outrage me, and I'm not even a Brit.

    But then again, you thought all of this was just mock outrage by Conservatives, right?

    And no, there's nothing 'stupid' about the sign. Signs are always geared for the lowest common denominator.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    It's not about her beliefs. I don't care what she believes, but the moment her actions went public, firing her was fair game. No employer needs their business associated with those actions. It's no different than the firing of the idiot who posted a youtube video of him tearing into a cashier at Chick Fil A. It went viral, he got fired. Wasn't his beliefs, it was the fact that he made himself an embarrassing spectacle that would blemish his employers reputation and good standing.
    With the continuing explosion of social media, how public is public? Is public if you put it up on your friends-only FB area, only to have it get passed around? How about if a total stranger captures and publishes it? How about if a total stranger just tells the story and the story gets around until an enterprising investigative journalist connects the story with the person's name months down the road? Should an employer have to demonstrate that their customers or other employees actually recognize the person at the center of the conflagration, or it is enough to simply not find that person's behavior inappropriate even if that behavior wouldn't negatively affect business?

    In other words, where is the line between what someone does in their off hours and what behavior an employer is actually able to penalize?
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    I am amazed at the number of people who don't understand this simple fact.
    Of course there are consequences for everything we do. I'm not questioning that, I'm questioning what consequences it is appropriate for society at large in general and the woman's employer in particular to inflict upon her.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    With the continuing explosion of social media, how public is public? Is public if you put it up on your friends-only FB area, only to have it get passed around? How about if a total stranger captures and publishes it? How about if a total stranger just tells the story and the story gets around until an enterprising investigative journalist connects the story with the person's name months down the road? Should an employer have to demonstrate that their customers or other employees actually recognize the person at the center of the conflagration, or it is enough to simply not find that person's behavior inappropriate even if that behavior wouldn't negatively affect business?

    In other words, where is the line between what someone does in their off hours and what behavior an employer is actually able to penalize?
    It's easy-peasy. The second something is posted on the internet, it's fair game for distribution with permission or not. Don't be a dummy and post stupid crap like this on the internet, because if you work for me, and something you post cases public outrage, I'm cutting you loose so my business doesn't loose face.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Of course there are consequences for everything we do. I'm not questioning that, I'm questioning what consequences it is appropriate for society at large in general and the woman's employer in particular to inflict upon her.
    Well, there was never any question of society imposing consequences on the women, other that public condemnation. An employer is generally free, in most cases, to take disciplinary action against employees who's actions reflect negatively on the employer. It happens every day.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    why did she think this would be a good idea?
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    It's easy-peasy. The second something is posted on the internet, it's fair game for distribution with permission or not. Don't be a dummy and post stupid crap like this on the internet, because if you work for me, and something you post cases public outrage, I'm cutting you loose so my business doesn't loose face.
    People have been doing stupid crap since the dawn of man. The difference between stupid crap 100 years ago and stupid crap today is that today it's much more visible. People aren't getting dumber, we're just privy to more of their stupidity. That doesn't give us license to punish it everywhere it pops up.
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