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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Who has the authority to set these standards, and by what authority are they enforced?
    Society sets these standards.

    Their enforcement is evident in what is happening to this lady.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The "Silence and Respect" part refers to the tomb.
    Everything has a context.

    The context of the sign refers to the tomb. The context of her picture does not.

    Its not complicated.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    I don't think the woman should be fired, but I have to say, if she were a friend of mine (anything other than wife/daughter/mother/sister), this'd cause me to rethink our relationship. Whatever problem I may have with the military, or the military "mindset," is beside the point. When someone has been killed in combat for their country, they have earned the right to be respected, in all but the most extreme cases*. Someone who does not treat any veterans' cemetary as sacred ground at least to the extent that they behave in a dignified and respectful manner has little concept, IMO, of what it takes to have and maintain a civilization. I would begin to question when and whether this woman would find it expedient to betray me, since betrayal begins in disrespect.

    *The extreme cases I mention would be if the soldier turned out to be something like a serial molester of children, or to have engaged in wholesale crimes against humanity (you won't find me expressing, for example, quite the same attitude over tombs of unknown Nazi Einsatzgruppen. They may have died for their country, but their duty clearly lay in resisting orders to perform manifestly evil acts). I suspect the vast majority of our honored dead don't fall into these sorts of categories.

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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In what universe does that individuals political beliefs effect her job?.
    It's not about her beliefs. I don't care what she believes, but the moment her actions went public, firing her was fair game. No employer needs their business associated with those actions. It's no different than the firing of the idiot who posted a youtube video of him tearing into a cashier at Chick Fil A. It went viral, he got fired. Wasn't his beliefs, it was the fact that he made himself an embarrasing spectacle that would blemish his employers reputation and good standing.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Spare us the "holier than thou" nonsense, she made a poor taste joke by a stupid sign. That's all folks!
    Why is the sign stupid? Is it stupid to post a sign in front of the tomb of the unknown soldier asking for silence and respect? If so, why?
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In what universe does that individuals political beliefs effect her job?

    Look I don't agree with what she did, but a) she is entitled to our First Amendment and b) what she did has no barrings on her job, but at the same time the company she works for has the right to hire and fire anyone they want....

    All I'm saying is progressives opened the door to political discrimination at the workplace.... IMO, people shouldn't be fired for their political views but progressives created an atmosphere where that is acceptable..

    It's become quite common that employees are fired for crap they post on facebook - progressives don't have a problem with it when someone is fired for posting anti-Obama rants, but now they have a problem with it when it's one of their own getting fired.

    But like I said - people shouldn't be fired for their political beliefs. What people do with their own personal time is their business.
    What about the FIRST AMENDMENT DOES NOT APPLY TO EMPLOYERS AND EMPLOYEES don't you understand?
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Welcome to America, where the First Amendment protects you from government prosecution, but you still have to own up to the consequences of your actions.
    I am amazed at the number of people who don't understand this simple fact.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm not partisan, but at the same time I'm not stupid....

    Progressives like you call for progress - well here is your progress.

    I've read numerous news articles about people getting fired for being anti-Obama and sharing their politics online or holding non-progressive views...

    Well now these authoritarian ideas have come back to bite a progressive in the butt...
    Would this be anything like all the right wing bosses who announced they were going to lay people off if Obama won the election?
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Well, I wouldn't and cant imagine a conservative would give the bird to the tomb of the unknown soldier. Conservatives would find that highly offensive and immature.

    I would never think to do such a thing..... I suppose one who would think to do such an act would have a problem with our military, and those who have a problem with our military are generally progressives.

    I don't see conservatives crying about the "military industrial complex."
    Then you obviously don't know much about Conservatives. Not Neo-Cons, who never met a war they didn't like as long as they didn't have to fight it. But true conservatives. Who in the hell do you think it was that first warned America about 'the military-industrial complex'? Jeez, go and read some history.
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    Re: Arlington Cemetery pic sparks outrage, calls for woman's firing

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    She is clearly giving the bird to "Silence and Respect".

    Not to the tomb.

    Anyone who honestly thinks otherwise is just plain stupid.
    REally? How in the hell do you know that?
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