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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I automatically don't believe in this bill when I see **** like this. This rhetoric is designed to sell something to the masses. The devil is in the details my friend.
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    My advce toanyone who does not like this bill, read it, then write your congressmen to offer your opinions to them.

    Youwould be amazxed at the results.\

    That's the reason that we are a great country.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    The Patriot Act already allows GPS tracking..... In theory the Patriot Act would allow government to microchip individuals...
    Please provide section number of the USA PATRIOT Act that could "in theory" allow the government to microchip individuals?

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Not with this administration, hell, they can't even call terrorism what it is.
    I'm not trusting anyone in D.C. to get rid of the troubling parts at this time, hell they issued the NDAA, and are trying to pass this turkey. It's going to take people who seriously value American constitutional law to undo this mess.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Methinks they're going to have a hard time getting this past SCOTUS. Warrantless access to Facebook wall posts is one thing (since they're already the internet equivalent of shouting in a room full of people), but email is private, and we've got fourth amendment protections for such things.
    Even if the SCOTUS strikes it down eventually, that takes time and money. Money that the average person doesn't have, and time that will be used to full effect in violating people's rights in the meantime.


    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I don't think Republican Senators will be against this very hard.

    The issue here isn't left vs. right. Rather, it's power vs. the people.

    And Republicans want that power when they're in charge just as much as Democrats do.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Even if the SCOTUS strikes it down eventually, that takes time and money. Money that the average person doesn't have, and time that will be used to full effect in violating people's rights in the meantime.
    That all depends on what the lower courst do. It's very common in a situation like this for a court to order that the new law be put on hold pending judicial determination of constitutionality.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    That all depends on what the lower courst do. It's very common in a situation like this for a court to order that the new law be put on hold pending judicial determination of constitutionality.
    That does happen at times, yes. It's not as standard as it should be, though.

    Sometimes I think we should establish a system of "pre-qualifying" new laws prior to them taking effect. (That has pros and cons, though.)
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That does happen at times, yes. It's not as standard as it should be, though.

    Sometimes I think we should establish a system of "pre-qualifying" new laws prior to them taking effect. (That has pros and cons, though.)
    There are countries that do that. I would think the biggest problem would be setting aside court resources to vet every law passed by congress.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Who on this forum has not been ripped of by a telescam or an internet scam.? I know I have.
    Aside from the time wasted in dealing with them, I haven't.

    Not all of us have ever been dumb enough to fall for the sort of blatant scams that get promoted by such methods.
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