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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News

    Daily Kos: No warrant required for private communications?


    Pat Leahy's committee has a bill up for vote soon that apparently was QUIETLY rewritten for govt snoopers to dig through your emails without ANYONE'S knowledge. How do you like your transparent government? I added the Daily Kos link so lefties wouldn't accuse me of a biased article. Apparently Leahy has a history mixed stands on privacy. I suspect that Leahy is a closet peeping-tom. Leahy is a huge asshole btw, which doesn't help either. It'll be interesting to learn how intrusive this law will be. Hopefully it'll get watered down to worthlessness.
    Petraeus is going to be pissed when he hears about this.










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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    As long as it is for our protection and the war on terror, I am all for it

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Democrats hate free speech, privacy and the Bill of Rights overall. Both gave Obama his wish of being able to have anyone anywhere including Americans assasinated or secretly imprisoned.

    BUT that's what the people want and voted for again. The government reading your emails, and assasinating and secretly imprisoning Americans is "the will of the people."
    Not !00% of the people, Joko, only 51%, the other 48.5 were just outvoted on what they wanted- doesn't mean we or I am willing to accept whatever that 51% Wants........or......likes'

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Methinks they're going to have a hard time getting this past SCOTUS. Warrantless access to Facebook wall posts is one thing (since they're already the internet equivalent of shouting in a room full of people), but email is private, and we've got fourth amendment protections for such things.
    They don't have to get it past SCOTUS because it will take anywhere from 10-30 or more years before it is struck down. Personally I think elected officials should be jailed for writing and passing unconstitutional laws and permantly barred from serving in an elected or appointed position.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    It says cnet "has learned"...., but failed to reveal it's source. Rumor, rumor, rumor.
    CNET provided a link to the text.


    http://www.leahy.senate.gov/imo/medi...ndmentsAct.pdf

    Is that anything like a source?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They don't have to get it past SCOTUS because it will take anywhere from 10-30 or more years before it is struck down. Personally I think elected officials should be jailed for writing and passing unconstitutional laws and permantly barred from serving in an elected or appointed position.
    While I agree that it may take time to get this (inevitable) case to SCOTUS (though not, probably, 10-30 years) there's a lot of stuff a federal court can do in the meantime to prevent enforcement of such a law (notably TRO's).

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Oh, so I see the libs here in usual fashion think no problem exists, until there is a problem in action....Couple the op story with this:

    Democrats push to redeploy Obama’s voter database - The Washington Post

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Welcome to ObamaNation comrades.
    Because government curtailing our freedoms started with Obama, right?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    While I agree that it may take time to get this (inevitable) case to SCOTUS (though not, probably, 10-30 years) there's a lot of stuff a federal court can do in the meantime to prevent enforcement of such a law (notably TRO's).
    One would think, unfortunately politicians have been overstepping federal court decisions for a while now to the point that they've almost become irrelevant.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Because government curtailing our freedoms started with Obama, right?
    Not at all, but he is putting it on steroids.
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