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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Is this some kind of extension of the Patriot Act?
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    If you're talking about info limited to a small number of people, that's one thing. Wall posts, by their very nature, are at least semi-public. Anything posted to someone's wall could very easily be re-posted all over the damn place by anyone with access to it. Like I said in my first post, it's the equivalent of shouting something in a room full of people. That's not a very private act.
    I think my statement makes clear the parts that I consider private. If you have your wall wide-open, they can see it. If not, they can't; that simple. If they have to by-pass privacy settings, they are invading.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Is this some kind of extension of the Patriot Act?
    Patriot Act requires a warrant.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Democrats hate free speech, privacy and the Bill of Rights overall. Both gave Obama his wish of being able to have anyone anywhere including Americans assasinated or secretly imprisoned.

    BUT that's what the people want and voted for again. The government reading your emails, and assasinating and secretly imprisoning Americans is "the will of the people."

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think my statement makes clear the parts that I consider private. If you have your wall wide-open, they can see it. If not, they can't; that simple. If they have to by-pass privacy settings, they are invading.
    I'm saying it's a little more complicated than that. If you're putting something on your wall (whether or not it's set to be viewed by non-friends), you do so with full awareness that it a) will be seen by everyone on your friends list (which could mean upwards of 1,000 people for some individuals) and b) full awareness that it could be liked, commented on or reposted by any one (or more) of those people, whcih in turn will make your comment show up not just to your friends, but to god knows how many other people. Put simply, you really have very little reasonable expectation that a wall post is private, no matter what privacy settings you're using.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Patriot Act requires a warrant.
    While they whine about the Patriot Act Big Br ... ERRR President Obama is doing this:

    Democrats push to redeploy Obama’s voter database - The Washington Post

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News

    Daily Kos: No warrant required for private communications?


    Pat Leahy's committee has a bill up for vote soon that apparently was QUIETLY rewritten for govt snoopers to dig through your emails without ANYONE'S knowledge. How do you like your transparent government? I added the Daily Kos link so lefties wouldn't accuse me of a biased article. Apparently Leahy has a history mixed stands on privacy. I suspect that Leahy is a closet peeping-tom. Leahy is a huge asshole btw, which doesn't help either. It'll be interesting to learn how intrusive this law will be. Hopefully it'll get watered down to worthlessness.
    I don't think Republican Senators will be against this very hard.

    The issue here isn't left vs. right. Rather, it's power vs. the people.

    And Republicans want that power when they're in charge just as much as Democrats do.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Democrats hate free speech, privacy and the Bill of Rights overall. Both gave Obama his wish of being able to have anyone anywhere including Americans assasinated or secretly imprisoned.

    BUT that's what the people want and voted for again. The government reading your emails, and assasinating and secretly imprisoning Americans is "the will of the people."
    I don't remember Romney campaigning against those things.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    While they whine about the Patriot Act Big Br ... ERRR President Obama is doing this:

    Democrats push to redeploy Obama’s voter database - The Washington Post
    Wow, that is a first. A conservative giving a Washington Post link. How low can you go?

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Patriot Act requires a warrant.
    Unless there is a threat in progress, such as a cell conversation or if there is reason to believe a warrant would take to long to stop said threat. It's an extension of probable cause to DHS.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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