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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Aside from the time wasted in dealing with them, I haven't.

    Not all of us have ever been dumb enough to fall for the sort of blatant scams that get promoted by such methods.
    Are you insinuating that I am dumb?

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Please provide section number of the USA PATRIOT Act that could "in theory" allow the government to microchip individuals?
    There is no "section number" that is the whole point of the Patriot Act... Suspicion is enough....

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

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    Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants | Politics and Law - CNET News

    Daily Kos: No warrant required for private communications?


    Pat Leahy's committee has a bill up for vote soon that apparently was QUIETLY rewritten for govt snoopers to dig through your emails without ANYONE'S knowledge. How do you like your transparent government? I added the Daily Kos link so lefties wouldn't accuse me of a biased article. Apparently Leahy has a history mixed stands on privacy. I suspect that Leahy is a closet peeping-tom. Leahy is a huge asshole btw, which doesn't help either. It'll be interesting to learn how intrusive this law will be. Hopefully it'll get watered down to worthlessness.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

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    Who on this forum has not been ripped of by a telescam or an internet scam.? I know I have.
    Aside from the time wasted in dealing with them, I haven't.

    Not all of us have ever been dumb enough to fall for the sort of blatant scams that get promoted by such methods.
    Are you insinuating that I am dumb?
    Dumb, foolish, gullible, a sucker, whatever. Pick a word.

    I've been around for a very long time. I've been on the Internet since long before most people knew that any such thing did or would exist. I've probably been exposed to just about every scam there is, through just about every medium in which such scams are propagated. And I've always been smart enough to recognize a scam when I saw it. So have most of the people I've known. So, I bet, have most of the people on this forum.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Going to chime in here on the Patriot Act.

    It in no way protects us. It is a irrational piece of legislation that gives government powers it should never have, The Patriot Act should be repealed in full. There is no part of it that makes any sort of sense when it restricts freedoms. We don't need it, and our country would be better off without. For that matter, abolishing Homeland Security and the TSA would be great steps as well. We have no use for them either.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Dumb, foolish, gullible, a sucker, whatever. Pick a word.

    I've been around for a very long time. I've been on the Internet since long before most people knew that any such thing did or would exist. I've probably been exposed to just about every scam there is, through just about every medium in which such scams are propagated. And I've always been smart enough to recognize a scam when I saw it. So have most of the people I've known. So, I bet, have most of the people on this forum.
    Everybody, at some time in their life, has fallen for something from somebody. Everybody.

    As far as internet and phone scams, I agree that the vast majority of people are smart enough to spot them. But, it seems that the majority of people who do fall for them are older people... older people that only a decade or two earlier were just like you and me and would never fall for them. I've seen discussions on why older people are more susceptible when that same person wouldn't have been before, but have never read anything conclusive.
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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    There is no "section number" that is the whole point of the Patriot Act... Suspicion is enough....
    What? You're saying the Patriot Act grants secret powers that aren't actually listed in the Patriot Act?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What? You're saying the Patriot Act grants secret powers that aren't actually listed in the Patriot Act?
    Depending on which court reviews it, maybe.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    I am surprised at the assumption of privacy in any email. I have long assumed all public emails are
    gleaned for marketing and other data.
    Several years ago, I planned a business trip, and sent a copy of my itinerary to my home (public) email.
    For the next six weeks I got adds for hotels and rental cars for my destination.
    I will go out on a limb, and say they did not guess where I was going. My point is if the marketers are processing the public email,
    is it unbelievable that the government is processing it first.

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    Re: Senate bill rewrite lets feds read your e-mail without warrants

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What? You're saying the Patriot Act grants secret powers that aren't actually listed in the Patriot Act?
    Yes, that is the point of the Patriot Act.

    What do you think warrantless wiretapping means? Also, you do realize the government can circumvent due process and hold you indefinitely if they suspect you're a "terrorist?"

    In short - if the government suspects you're a terrorist they can throw your ass in a basement cell and throw away the key. The only problem is that "terrorist" is a loose term - hell, some progressives have attempted to label the Tea Party as "terrorists." The Patriot Act is extremely dangerous and subject to the slippery slope.

    The Patriot Act allows the federal government to completely circumvent civil liberties (Bill of Rights/Constitutional rights) and lock you up if they believe you're a terrorist - foreign or domestic. The act also allows the government to spy on you and invade your privacy without a warrant... Presently the FBI doesn't need a search warrant to break down your door and search your home via the Patriot Act - all they have to conclude is that you MAY be a suspected terrorist and that is enough to justify their search.
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